clearing logged land

tommy&april

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i live in atkins,ar and need to clear some grown up logged land. what is the best method to do this, i have access to a dozer but the property is full of stumps and tough to get around on a dozer. is burning it the best method or do any of you have any good ideas
 
Use the dozer to clear the land of the stumps along with the other stuff.
 
It depends on what you are going to use the land for. Pasture or hay ground. To clear it for pasture a D8 with a KG or a shear blade will do you a nice job for about what was posted - maybe a bit more cause of fuel. The windrows or piles can then be burned and whittled on with time. As for the rest, come right in behind the dozier with an offset harrow. Once you are done, lime it and seed it and you got yourself a pasture for less the $350 per acre.

For hayground, best start with an excavator. Follow this with a dozier to pile and burn. Rootavator next. Looking at $1000-$1500/acre. Time, persistance and patience can be your friend if you let it.
 
How many acres are you wanting to clear. excavator is likely the best way to get the stumps. You need some one with the excavator and a dozer to work together do you a better job faster that way.
 
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ita about 60 acres. wanting to make good pasture out of it. d5 dozer what i have to use. its tough to get the stumps up with that. i though about burning ther whole thing off and then using the dozer to clear the deadfall left over from logging and then grind the stumps or something
 
What kind of trees were on the site before it was logged? And how long ago was it logged? I still think shearing it would be your cheapest route. Grinding stumps on 60 acres sounds rather expensive.
 
hardwoods and pines. mature trees, what do u mean by shearing it. it has alot of deadfall and it was logged a whilre ago so its grown up bad
 
I would rent a track hoe (excavator),$1500 a week for a big one here in AL. Do it your self. It will take you an hour or so to get the hang of operating it. It will be cheaper.Get one with a thumb on it that will fold up. You can dig them up and thin pile them or bury them.
 
It depends on what time frame you have to transition this from logged ground to pasture.

I am doing a bit of the same thing. I need more pasture and less woods. My plan is to work along the edges gradually taking out trees myself. The wood is sold for logs, tops are sold for firewood and the slash is chipped and either spread and disced or used for bedding, landscaping, etc.I bought a stump grinder to get the stumps below soil surface without massive soil movement. My plan is to add a couple acres of pasture per year this way - depending on time available.

If you want or need to get it done in one year you will have to go the high dollar route with big equipment. It may be worth the investment of dollars, or it may not. Depends on your situation. I feel that if you ahave a couple years to transition the 60 acres you should buy a tractor mounted stump grinder and grind stumps as you have time. Maybe grind a couple acres, then disc it smooth, soil test, lime and fertilize as required, disc it again and plant. I wouldn't worry about a few limbs etc. A good heavy duty flail type orchard mower will chip them pretty fine and leave them in place. Or if they are larger, a tractor loader with a log-grab or other equipment can move them to a ditch and burn the pile when it is safe to do so.

You can do most of this yourself but again it depends on your own situation, time and money available etc.

The other approach is capital intensive but faster. Best of Luck.

Another thought is to just clean out some areas and let the cattle graze other overgrown areas until you can get there to clear them - as long as they have enough to eat the cattle don't mind the stumps.
 
tommy&april":3wxn7n90 said:
i live in atkins,ar and need to clear some grown up logged land. what is the best method to do this, i have access to a dozer but the property is full of stumps and tough to get around on a dozer. is burning it the best method or do any of you have any good ideas

In your area a D8 size dozer with a ripper is the most versatile. With a excavator you will need a dozer also. It will need to have a angle dozer or motor grader after debree is cleared. You need a large dozer to pull the ripper through the stumps to bust them out. If they have been cut for 2 or 3 years it will be much easier.
I have the same thing to start on this fall. It will take all I got for the timber for fuel and seed.
 
However you do it, you have to get rid of the stumps. Even if cut right at the ground, each stump will accpy x square foot of soil that would be better off growing grass. If you get a rough count of stump and measure the sq footage of a couple for reference you'll see that you would be gaining substantial area of grass rather then being bare(having a stump)
 
dun":2sk6dhmq said:
However you do it, you have to get rid of the stumps. Even if cut right at the ground, each stump will accpy x square foot of soil that would be better off growing grass. If you get a rough count of stump and measure the sq footage of a couple for reference you'll see that you would be gaining substantial area of grass rather then being bare(having a stump)

For pasture, I don't worry about the stumps. They will occupy roughly 140 (200 ft tops) square foot per acre on average which is only 0.3% of an acre. Spending a lot of money to increase grazing land by 0.3% has kept me from ever using an excavator unless I'm putting it in cultivation and it has to be stump free. I think the most important thing is to get the stumps low enough so you can harrow it with an offset and the shear is the most economical piece of equipment I've found to do this. Once this is done, the rest will work itself out with time as most stumps will rot. To me, the important thing is to get it fenced and cows on it as soon as possible and let the cows and time work for you. But everyone's situation is different and what works for me may not work for you. JMO
 
i have read about a co or someone that will come take the stumps out for some reason...seemed like they would dig em and take em but you had to finish off the field...think..think..think....
 
i agree about getting it fenced and cows on it as soon as possible but it is so thick and grown up and so much deadfall and mess that im afrain it would be tough on the cows(gaots might work for a time) it is well over head high with sapplings and super thick brush but i like th idea about shearing the stumps so i can run a harrow over it
 
was talking to a buddy of mine about this very thing yesterday.he has run dozers for almost 50yrs.an he told me to rent a backhole an digg the trees an bushes up.said was alot cheaper an faster than hiring a dozer.around here dozers want $900 to $1000 a day to run.an thats a full days work 8 to 9 hrs.a days work is also the minum charge.
 
bigbull338":28438cb6 said:
told me to rent a backhole an digg the trees an bushes up.said was alot cheaper an faster than hiring a dozer.around here dozers want $900 to $1000 a day to run.an thats a full days work 8 to 9 hrs.a days work is also the minum charge.

:shock: Surely you misunderstood him as there is no way a backhoe can clear as much land in a day as a D8. Price per hour may be more expensive but price per cleared acre of land is a lot cheaper than a backhoe.
 
If you could wait 4-5 years it sure would make it easier to deal with the stumps especially the soft wood ones. Then hire the job out.

But your buddy may know the situation better than we do and maybe steering you in the right direction. Unless he is the one renting the backhoe :D
 

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