Christmas Eve Twins

HootieK

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Good Morning,

Been reading your forum for a while and have learned so much for everyone........SO THANKS SO MUCH.

Christmas Eve gave me something to contribute to the forum. TWINS. I went out that morning to check the heard and saw Mama licking a new calve, and in my excitement of watching and walking to get closer I almost stepped on another calf. Being confused of what I saw and not thinking Twins, I started checking all the other cows to see whom this calf belonged to. What threw me was one calf was clean and dry with no after birth around anywhere and laying about two hundred feet away from the new born.

After getting help from a neighbor, I decided they were twins and got them with the mama cow. After a few hours went buy I hadnt seen anybody nursing or even trying, I decided to step in with some culosterum (spelling??). I started with the weakest one and had to make him suck, which took a lot of time.

To make a long story short, the mamas bag was hard and her milk was not dropping down. My wife and I tried to milk her, with little success. Didnt know what a good bag or healthy teats looked like. We were able to keep the calves alive until I could get the mama to the vet after Christmas to get her cleaned out. The vet gave me some advice about milking and 4 of us milked this cow out for 30 min. There was milk everywhere.

As of today everyone is doing fine. One calf is a aggressive nurser and the other is not, but they are running and jumping and acting like the other calfes.

I learned many things over that three day period:
1) Have plenty of culosterum available.
2) Twins could be born at different times and PLACES.
3) Warm water is a MUST when trying to hand milk a cow (at least in the beginning)
4) Cherish your neighbors that have cattle....they are your best cheerleaders.
5) Milking makes your hands tired.
6) Clean out after twins needs to be by a VET.
7) Farm stores close at noon on Christmas Eve.
 
I'm glad things are working out for you! Keep up the good work, I'm sure it'll be awhile before they are out of the woods!

Michele
 
HootieK":fhg8yfjb said:
I learned many things over that three day period:
4) Cherish your neighbors that have cattle....they are your best cheerleaders.
5) Milking makes your hands tired.
7) Farm stores close at noon on Christmas Eve.

Good post HK ~ am glad you are working it out!

As far as above ~
4) Neighbors that have cattle are a God send. It is a blessing to be able to call someone for a heat lamp bulb (those stupid things always seem not to work when I need them), meds, syringes, pkg colostrum (sp?!), electrolytes etc.... I have someones LA200 with my meds, and someone else has my tube feeder. Always bouncing on and off of each other. They are, as you say, good help in general.
5) Milked goats for years by hand, sitting cross legged in the pen. Always at first burns and hurts muscles, my fingers cramp. I had to laugh when I read that. It gets better fast, you will be able to finish without stopping ~ both hands at once, like a pro!
7) UGH! Hate that lesson!! Again, Thank God for #4.
 
Good luck with the twins, they can be a mixed blessing. I don't know the reason but I have them on a regular basis and most of the time things work out OK for all.

Lesson 7 - Might want to check with Crowder on this but I heard the feed store owners - especially those in Tennessee ;-) don't mind you calling them after hours - especially after 1:00 a.m.
 
Anything else I need to watch for? Mama is part Holstien so milk should not be a problem.
 
HootieK":sip2o4ko said:
Anything else I need to watch for? Mama is part Holstien so milk should not be a problem.

Watch her condition. Given the need she may milk herself too thin to breed back
 
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oxyrocin is great to have on hand while calving for two reasons

1. give a cow 2 or 5 ml and wait 20 minutes (someitmes sooner) the cow will not be able ot hold her milk. ask the vet, not calving here yet so have not brushed up on the drugs when where why yet

2. 5 ml used within 48 hours of a hard birth, twins, mal presentation not later otherwise no good. helps to shrink the uterus and help with the cleaning...so how don't know why. But it does work
another tip for milkingm raise tail onto the back of the cow, do not twist, like the letter "C", cow can not kick.
 

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