boondocks":2fvxc6wv said:
greybeard":2fvxc6wv said:
I and my family are among those you are referring to. I read it. Gave it all the consideration warranted.
I suggest, you stop driving hydrocarbon fueled cars, stop using any and all plastics, paints, gases, & fertilize.
Make a real difference in the world. None of us will be holding our breath for that to happen.[/quote]
Wow, really? Lobbing a personal attack? Kinda uncalled for. I'll edit that: highly uncalled-for.
TB is right. The level of bullying on this board has gone up. Guess it makes you feel like a big man.
Any of you notice how few women there are left on these boards? Wonder why...
Gender has nothing to do with it. I would and have said the same thing to men both in person and in other internet discussions.
A stone was lobbed in my general direction..I just picked it up and sent it back in the direction it came from. There was until it floated away recently, a single sign at my gate. "The place the Exxon built". I built it off the returns from a lifetime of investing in that company.
Everyone in America wants cheap fuel, plastic, fertilize, paint and anything else that comes from hydrocarbons, but they are equally adamant that they be produced safely and usually, NIMBY. I used to see people all the time complain that some of their phones were too heavy..they demand light weight durable cases and displays. Let fuel prices spike and the first thing that happens it's "their/them/they's" fault because a plant or pipeline somewhere is shut down, but no one ever offers any kind of solution.
Gasoline and diesel prices go up, everyone complains. When the Bakken, Eagle Ford, Canadian oils sands, and Permian Basin put us into oil independence and crude and refined fuel prices went to new lows, not a sound. Crickets. The industry got no credit for it, just much reported protests over the pipelines need to bring that new oil to the refineries.
It's like the folks that make a lot of noise at protests "
Save the trees! then drive their cars home on cheap fuel to their already built 2x4..2x6 plwood clad suburban homes. They already HAVE their house..they just don't want anyone else to get what they did. :roll:
Suburbanites and city folks move out into farmland and complain mightily about the smell of cow manure, and how beef & meat is processed but they eat them Big Macs, KFC, and Jimmy Dean sausage and guzzle down that milk like there's no tomorrow don't they?
A natural, unpreventable disaster comes along, and all of a sudden it's the petrochemical/hydrocarbon industry's fault.
It gets old.
I worked in the drilling end of that industry for nearly 15 years. My father worked in the refining end from the late 40s until he retired in the early 80s.
Caustic, JS, Brute, and several others here work or have worked in that industry and we all know how dangerous it is. Is it perfect? No, neither is farming/ranching, but it's as safe as can be made within 'reasonable' human responses, tho new and better ways are being found all the time.
CB will tell you, one of the biggest headaches in plants is outside contractors.
This is my nephew in the center. He and his family was evacuated by order when the Crosby plant lost power. He didn't complain. I'm pretty proud of what he does and what he's accomplished: