Brute, thanks for the reply and definately we are concerned with to much ear. I see your location is south Texas, I've always heard that is where extra ear brings the higher prices in Texas. One of the things I'm looking to do before this calf gets breeding age is go to the sale barn I frequent and discuss the discount they observe with this breed. From a crossbreed standpoint I need to discuss also with the man I bought my brangus from. Not quite sure just how much Brahman has been breed out of his basically closed herd as I don't think he's ever had a Brahman on the farm in the years I've known him so might be nearly bred out. We bought 3 brahman cows last year, AI'd them and only one stuck, The other bred to our Char bull and dropped a nice heifer calf, third heifer was so bat-sh!t crazy in the pen we hauled her. I'll drop some pictures of both calves and some of my black cows and would really appreciate your opinions on this. Don't worry about hurt feelings if anyone disagrees or do not like my cow's LOL. I always listen to others opinions and most of the folks on here truly try to be helpful so I decifer a lot.