Cattle prices....??

[a7 livestock]

It's probably a demand thing, angus are in high demand, but raise whatever suits you. Not what someone tells you to raise.

 

[TexasBred]

All,

I am not in the market right now...but look often on the NC Ag website. They have a decent livestock classified section. I have noticed that Herefords and Gerts sell for quite a bit less than Angus. Now, these would be classified as replacement animals...is this because of color? Would this be a good indication of the type of animals I should be looking at for my area, assuming that I wanted to have a nice commercial herd? Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!

Tim

Gerts and Herfs don't sell well around here either. Find out what your market wants and go with it. You're in it to make money.

 

[Caustic Burno]

My advice to you is buy the Herf's as they are cheaper, popularity thing and you have option's.
You can change the entire calf crop color by changing the bull to meet your market.
To many have become quality blind for color.
Buy you a good Brangus or Angus bull and laugh all the way home from the barn.
Black baldies have alway's sold good even as the other fad's have come and gone.

 

[Howdyjabo]

I agree with Caustic-- to a point.
Herefords just do not do well here(piedmont). If you are somewhere else in NC(esp the mountains) then Herefords would be a good choice.

If I was buying I would be looking for something discounted (my choice would be a little ear and red), but I would pass on Gerts-- they sell awful and its hard to breed out that "look" in a generation(or more).

Best thing to do is find what is working for your neighbors that have been profitable in cattle for generations. And copy everything they are doing. No point in reinventing the wheel.

 

[ifarm26]

I am from the foothills of nc and it seems herefords are always docked at the sale barn. I have purchased several registered herefords for a steal from around the I-77 corridor and up into Virginia. I always breed them to an angus bull and walk away from the sale barn with a smile on my face. My friend from about a mile up the road runs angus x and registered herefords. He will average 15-25 cent less per pound on the herefords than the angus x.

 

[3MR]

CAB has done an incredible job promoting black hides and I cant think of anywhere that a black hided animal without Bos taurus charachteristics is not going to bring more than other colors.

Black baldies, black white faces, whatever you want to call them bring just as much most places, but again I believe that is due to them fitting in the CAB program.

I run Angus and Angus X. All my bulls are pure Angus. I have a couple cows that throw red calves every year. Its not a problem for me as I sell to a Natural Beef program that will pay the premium for black or red hides as long as they are Angus without Bos taurus influence. I have one Longhorn cow pasture ornament that was a present a few years back. The angus bulls breed her as well. She still throws spotted calves, but they nocked the horns off.

 

[djinwa]

CAB has done an incredible job promoting black hides and I cant think of anywhere that a black hided animal without Bos taurus charachteristics is not going to bring more than other colors.

Black baldies, black white faces, whatever you want to call them bring just as much most places, but again I believe that is due to them fitting in the CAB program.

I run Angus and Angus X. All my bulls are pure Angus. I have a couple cows that throw red calves every year. Its not a problem for me as I sell to a Natural Beef program that will pay the premium for black or red hides as long as they are Angus without Bos taurus influence. I have one Longhorn cow pasture ornament that was a present a few years back. The angus bulls breed her as well. She still throws spotted calves, but they nocked the horns off.

If your bulls are "pure angus" (assume you mean black angus) then you shouldn't get any red calves, as black is dominant.

 

[gonzo]

Black isn't always dominant AI'd an american white park with a black angus she came out almost all white. :tiphat:

 

[salebarn junkie]

With a black Angus bull you should never have red calves. Kinda like my neighbors Angus bull with scurs ?????.

 

[TexasBred]

With a black Angus bull you should never have red calves. Kinda like my neighbors Angus bull with scurs ?????.

Have you never seen an angus/longhorn cross?? Speckled rascals.

 

[salebarn junkie]

Not talking about white spots or white animals. A double black bull will not throw a red calf.

 

[BC]

With a black Angus bull you should never have red calves. Kinda like my neighbors Angus bull with scurs ?????.

You ever hear of a Black Angus that was a red gene carrier. Here is a link that you can look up known carriers of a red gene.

http://www.angus.org/Pub/DefectsAnmList ... vIg3UTE%3d

 

[salebarn junkie]

Its the internet I didn't know I had to know what I was talking about. Do you know what the percentage of black Angus carry the red gene?

 

[BC]

I don't think the percentage it is very large. If you look at the list of bulls, back 20 to 30 years ago there were some big name bulls that were red carriers. The Red Angus folks like it when a Black Angus produces a red calf - it expands the gene pool.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Here is the weekly report this barn used to run 2500 head or better weekly before the drought.

http://www.easttexaslivestock.com/market-report/

 

[LauraleesFarm]

I like the comments at the bottom of the page. Gives a little extra insight.