Guy close by me priced his Case IH 485 a 1986 model with 2800 hours. It has a newer Allied loader with bucket, spear and forks but they are not quick attach., pin on. Been a while since I saw the tractor but looked ok last time I saw it. Says one new rear tire and the other 85%. Looking for something that would help me out during hay season so swapping implements would not be done so much. Raking and tedding would be a big help. Also the loader for unloading hay when I bale off the farm. Would mainly be handling 4 x 5 bales. I raked some hay with a friends 685 once and it was ok, would take a while to get use to it. Looked on Fastline and he seems in line on price but then it is 20 years old. Thoughts on price?