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Tomcolvin

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I had to have back surgery on 4th of Feb. so I had to get someone to do my cotton seed twice a weekl and move in hay every 4 days. They also keep on the water tanks. Every Monday and Thursday they feed cotton. I have not been back to the pastures since Feb 3rd, my son in law feeds the cotton seed and moved the hay. It may not be a problem but my bull has stopped coming into the feed pens when he feeds the cows. The bull has refused to come into to eat. I normally let the bull come into the pen and when he does I latch the gates and herd him thru the feed pens into the corral where I feed him, I cut out his cotton and only feed him a little sweet feed. When finishes up I let him out thru the alley way to the side gate that lets him go back to pasture. The reason for doing this in the alley or chute to head gate, is where I work him when he needs working on (shots, fly drench and such.) My problem is why has he quit coming in to feed pens. I’m the only one in last couple of years that herds him thru the process to the coral. I did walk over to the corral today just to observe him physically. And no I didn’t get into the pens with the cows. I was on one side of fence and him on the other, this is what I saw. His breathing was regular, no laboring when breathing, eyes where clear and alert, no runs or appearance of stomach problems, hooves looked good. All in all looks in good shape. When I came out of pasture I watch him a while and he went to drink water and walked out of pen where water tubs are at and thru gate back to pasture and headed straight for the hay ring and stated eating hay. Now for my sake I’m trying figure out why after all this time does he decided not to come in to get his feed?
1- new people doing the feeding?
2- the last feed I bought for him from tractor supply was a more pellet type and maybe less molasses?
3- maybe in the first stages of pneumonia when they can lose appetite?
4-maybe with all the changes he just hasn’t accepted everything yet?
I lost one bull to pneumonia 2 years ago and he quit coming to the feeding. By the time I found a vet that kind could get out to pasture, he said it may be too late. It was, after vet gave shot he died about 2 hours later. I’m just trying to cover all my bases. He is one that has to be tricked into getting him into the corral and that’s why I have to trick him into the corral and force him to exit thru the side gate in my alley. He is too big for my head gate. Please give me some ideas as to what may be going on. I thank you for that.
Oh, I forgot, when it comes time for working him I add 5 more cows to the chute with him somewhere in the middle. Kinda like a traffic jam where he can’t go back or forward.
My son in law said he could feed him outside the pen but I told him no, if he don’t come in, He don’t get nothing but his hay.
Thanks
 
Thanks, I want to think the same thing. He is a very gentle bull until the gates close. Then he becomes Mr Mighty Bull.
 
''Benign neglect'' goes a long way if they are eating there hay and are in good condition. Bulls are like us, they are a creature of habit and do not like change.
 
I’m thinking based on what was said, that it’s just a situation the bull being wary of new people, could be couple with a different type feed to, but probably more so different people.
I’ve typically had very calm and gentle cattle, but when strangers are around they sometimes they have reacted as though they saw some kind of space aliens.
 
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I’m thinking based on what was said, that it’s just a situation the bull being wary of new people, could be couple with a different type feed to, but probably more so different people.
I’ve typically had very calm and gentle cattle, but when strangers are around they sometimes they have reacted as though they saw some kind of space aliens.
Thanks? Maybe I’m a few weeks I’ll be back on board. Another piece of the puzzle I left out and really hadn’t thought about until I read the reply’s. My Ausie is not on the job. She normally is playing calves and keeping the cows moving. She is not the best cattle dog but when she and I go after one to bring in, we get our cow. They could be missing her?
 
Just one more thing in the list of "it's different".... Just watch and listen to the bull to make sure he is not going into pneumonia... if he's eating otherwise, just not coming in the pen... then don't get over concerned... They do not like change when things have been done a certain way all the time... The only advantage to having more than one person doing chores... they get more accustomed to different people and different ways of things getting done...
 
I did walk over to the corral today just to observe him physically.
What if you just did that first, and just shut the gate when he comes in. Then, let SIL get the cows in, do all the feeding and sorting , etc. Then, after he is in there and sees SIL feeding the others etc., he may decide one day to take a bite himself.
 
Just one more thing in the list of "it's different".... Just watch and listen to the bull to make sure he is not going into pneumonia... if he's eating otherwise, just not coming in the pen... then don't get over concerned... They do not like change when things have been done a certain way all the time... The only advantage to having more than one person doing chores... they get more accustomed to different people and different ways of things getting done...
I walked over to the corral and no body was down there yet. I had my helper to put out the cotton seed and I got my bamboo stick and open the gate to the corral and let out my usual call and here came the cows running. I step out behind the gate and hollered move it!


Move it!! They all came in, Bull too, then I moved him pen to pen until he made the 4th pen which is the corral catch pen with chute and exit gate. I went in with him and put hid feed in trough and he was happy, So was I. When the help arrived they said how did you get him into the corral. I said when I’m better and can do it again I’ll show you how. You have to learn to speak his language and just guide him . You just crowd him a little from the back in. If he turns on you always have an escape route. He not mean, he just don’t like being closed I’m. The reason I feed him in the corral is to keep him going into it and exiting thru the chute side gate. When I do vaccines , he is ok with it, I don’t feed him cotton seed but maybe a hand full sometimes but mostly a little sweet feed. He eats by himself. No cows or calves allowed.
I know o had no business in there doing that but had to see if bull was ok or sick. He is ok and I haven’t been back in there since. Don’t tell my wife. Lol
 
Thanks and you are correct. I won’t be doing that again but I lost a full blood like him to pneumonia and was too late catching it and finding a vet in time to save him. I learned a very expensive lesson.
 
They heard your voice, and it triggered the "everything is normal".....some of our cattle will not come to certain people calling them... and even though I am not around the calving cows as much this past year, with this being so sick from the allergic reactions from the alpha gal... and now trying to get back on my feet strength and stamina wise... when I go to a pasture and call, there are cows that will come running... because they recognize my voice... that will not come for others near as quick....
Slow and steady and doing the same routine worked good... Now, get better so you can get back out there !!!!!!
 

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