Bull

[Cross-7]

Any chance he'll make a bull ?
I don't know a thing about him except he came in as a pair out a pretty good black cow
Figure he's about 5 months old maybe 500#
But I really have no way of knowing how old he is

 

[Bigfoot]

He would here.

 

[Brute 23]

No way to know from that pic

 

[Muddy]

He looks good for me tho I would like to see him have deep body.

 

[Cross-7]

I'm impressed with him so far.
He's still growing tall and at an awkward age, but showing potential

I figure I'll take a chance and see how he grows out.

 

[City Guy]

You "don't know a thing about him" so NO-NO-NO he will not be a good gamble!!!

 

[Muddy]

You "don't know a thing about him" so NO-NO-NO he will not be a good gamble!!!

Oh shut up, City Guy. You don't even have any cattle.

 

[ez14]

Well if it were me i wouldn't put him on any heifers tell i seen the size of his calves

 

[True Grit Farms]

You "don't know a thing about him" so NO-NO-NO he will not be a good gamble!!!

Oh shut up, City Guy. You don't even have any cattle.

Well City Guy is kind of right. I sure wouldn't let him smell any heifers till I saw his first calf crop myself.

 

[cowgirl8]

Who are you people??? lol

 

[LLBUX]

He looks better than many bulls that are shown here.
He looks to be growthy and sound.
Somebody would benefit in using him on COWS.

 

[Bigfoot]

Who are you people??? lol

I figured this thread would explode.

 

[Muddy]

You "don't know a thing about him" so NO-NO-NO he will not be a good gamble!!!

Oh shut up, City Guy. You don't even have any cattle.

Well City Guy is kind of right. I sure wouldn't let him smell any heifers till I saw his first calf crop myself.

I agree with you on the heifers. I wouldn't use any unproven bulls on heifers but I didn't see any issues with him on mature cows.

 

[cowgirl8]

Who are you people??? lol

I figured this thread would explode.

So, our home grown bulls, where we know the history of, are not good. But some guy can pick up a pair at a sale barn and keep the calf of unknown origin as a great bull........am i missing something or was this thread bait?
There are so many reasons for not picking up a random calf from a sale barn and use it as a bull unless you just dont care and or just dont want to spend the money for a bull that at least someone knows the history. What if this calf was 150 pounds when it was born, what if its older and is 10 + months...Maybe it doesnt even belong to the cow but was a graft, or just put with her as a pair....Muddy, where is he going to get uniformity? Really, this has to be a bait thread...

 

[Cross-7]

I'm trying to get some info from where they came from.
I was told the calves were out of a Hereford bull.
All the cows are red with whitefaced calves except two black cows that don't match the rest.
The other black cow has a nice heifer calf.
Completely different stock for sure

 

[backhoeboogie]

Personally I don't care for the look of his shoulders. I like a bull with really smooth shoulders.

Like Brute, I can't tell much just from a pic.

His birthweight would be good to know.

There is simply too much at stake to take a chance with the one animal in your herd that makes a huge difference.

Smooth shoulders, reasonable birth weight, high conception, calf survival, and other factors. He's probably something that my market is looking for, but that alone is not enough.

Some times you can get lucky. Are you willing to take that risk?

 

[Cross-7]

Who are you people??? lol

I figured this thread would explode.

So, our home grown bulls, where we know the history of, are not good. But some guy can pick up a pair at a sale barn and keep the calf of unknown origin as a great bull........am i missing something or was this thread bait?
There are so many reasons for not picking up a random calf from a sale barn and use it as a bull unless you just dont care and or just dont want to spend the money for a bull that at least someone knows the history. What if this calf was 150 pounds when it was born, what if its older and is 10 + months...Maybe it doesnt even belong to the cow but was a graft, or just put with her as a pair....Muddy, where is he going to get uniformity? Really, this has to be a bait thread...

I posted a picture and asked
I didnt proclaim he was the best around ;-)
I've been impressed with him so far and trying to decide whether to cut him.
Again I'm trying to get more info on he from the guy I bought the pairs from

If he's as good as a registered bull down the road priced at 3500
Why not try him ?

 

[backhoeboogie]

Completely different stock for sure

That's happened to me. Neighbor's POS bull jumped in my pasture.

 

[Muddy]

Who are you people??? lol

I figured this thread would explode.

So, our home grown bulls, where we know the history of, are not good. But some guy can pick up a pair at a sale barn and keep the calf of unknown origin as a great bull........am i missing something or was this thread bait?
There are so many reasons for not picking up a random calf from a sale barn and use it as a bull unless you just dont care and or just dont want to spend the money for a bull that at least someone knows the history. What if this calf was 150 pounds when it was born, what if its older and is 10 + months...Maybe it doesnt even belong to the cow but was a graft, or just put with her as a pair....Muddy, where is he going to get uniformity? Really, this has to be a bait thread...

Who knows he could be purebred black Angus and this is no bait thread, Linda.

 

[Brute 23]

I've seen people try to keep bulls before, including myself, that looked darn good but IMO the depth was not there on the genetics. When they bred cows the calves were not where they should have been. I'm not an expert on genetics and all that but there is a big difference between producing a quality animal and producing an animal that can produce a quality animal.

You have to make the call on that. It will not hurt to try I can assure you that. If it doesn't work you sell him for the weight and go on. I would breed him to a small batch of cows as early as possible to see what you get. Probably wouldn't do heifers like others have mentioned and probably would depend on him for my whole calf crop either.

With that said, we have had people pull up and buy our bulls out of the pasture we wean in. They were cheap and the people bought what they could afford.