Bull sale

wbvs58

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I took 5 two year old Angus bulls along to a bull sale about 5 hrs drive north of here. First time I've sold at this venue. It is in tick country and there are a lot of Brahman and Brahman cross cattle and the graziers are buying Angus bulls to improve the carcase quality. My bulls were much admired but the general consensus was that they were a bit overdone to put straight out onto rough country with those cows. I was happy that I sold them all but only at the min upset price of $3000. Four of them went to the same buyer and they were very happy with their purchases, they had been buying early in the week at one of the bigger stud sales further south and only came to look and were very impressed with the boys and thought hey would just put in a starting bid and were very happy with their purchases and will use them over predominantly Santa cows. I am happy too as they are going to a good operation and we will stay in touch and get good feedback.
I know now what shape to have the bulls in if I go back next year and it certainly won't be as expensive in preparation.
Anyhow here they are feel free to say what you think.

Ken




 
Nice bulls. Will you change the type and or just the quantity of feed to get them into "rough country" shape? Buddy bought a Sim-Angus bull out of Neb that was rolling fat. He held up way better than I thought but still melted some.
 
One thing I have learned about the cattle business, you have to build up your reputation. If these bulls work for their new owners you will start getting them as repeat customers. You have to build trust in your program to sell it. If you have a bull fail be prepared to make it right.

gizmom
 
They look good Ken. They would be all over those fat bulls around here! That's just less that they will have to feed them. :lol:
 
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Nice bulls.. If the calves grow the new owner would remember if the bull did or did not melt.. If the calves dont grow it wont matter either.
 
I have never found them to melt when they go out to work or any other problems, yes they will lose weight because they are starting to earn their keep. Having a bit of reserve there can be a bit handy. Anyhow they have a right to their opinions and if I want to sell into that market then I have to comply with their specifications. I sold a pair of this group of bulls to a neighbour back in May and split them off and fed them just enough to keep them going forward over winter and I helped him put them out the other day, gee they looked good and I was very proud of them and they hit the ground running. I will aim to prepare bulls for this sale similarly next year.
I am far from disappointed, I feel I have got my stock into a well respected producers herd and should get good feedback down the track.
Our market here is about 2 years behind the US. Large areas have been in drought for over 3 years and the forecast for summer is not pretty. We have had record high numbers of females going to slaughter each year for sometime and it has only just started to slow down over the last couple of weeks and the processors have had a field day getting cattle for low prices. Things started to improve at the saleyards at the start of this year and our cattle prices have been steadily increasing and now $3 plus/kg for light weight young stock is getting common. If we were to get some good summer rain in those bad drought affected areas then I think next years bull sales will take off. You have to have a bit of "ticker" to stay at it to have the stock there when things do improve. I know a lot of people who went home after last years sales and took a knife to their young bulls, a bit short sighted I thought.
Ken
 
I don't think people are going to have opportunity to pay $3000 for bulls of that quality for much longer. Its certainly been the bull buyers market here for the last couple of years.

Andrew
 
Ken that's exactly what we all did here after our January 2014 Bull sale. A lot of sellers had cut their bull calves. I decided to skip the hassle of the week long showing, grading, and sifting this year, (for the little amount of money that the bulls had brought at the sale) and sold what I had private treaty at a reduced price. So the bull numbers were greatly reduced at the sale this year. Boy were we ever surprised at the price jump! It sure made me regret not taking mine. I sold for less than half of what the (few) Brangus bulls had brought at the sale. :bang:
Oh well, live and learn........

If the genetics are there, they aren't going to "melt" away enough to matter. That idea has never set well with me. Any bull can drop weight while out working, it doesn't matter whether they start out fat or thin. If they start out fat and sassy, they have some reserve. If they start out thin, they are going to get even thinner. (And be all that much harder to bring them back up into condition.)
 
townfarmer, we evidently have different markets.. butcher bulls are about $2500 here, and you'd be hard pressed to find a bull worth using for less than $4000... usually they're $6000.
With the droughts around here people might be selling off older bulls now before winter and who knows what the market will be like in the spring
 
I would be a lot more scared to buy a trim bull out of a fat bull sale than buying a fat bull. The one that is probably the closest to their ideal condition is also the weaker one of the five. I think two year olds need a bit of extra condition on them as most of the time they have the teeth equivalent of a 12 year old cow.
 
Yes Harvey lot 17 was a very slow eater and I had trouble getting him up to that weight yet he was a fairly big frame bull. But his scan was probably the best of them all yet was 150kg lighter than the heaviest. He went 17mm for P8, 10mm rib, 114 EMA and 7.4 IMF. He was actually the highest IMF in the sale out of 100 bulls.
Just on another subject Harvey, did you see the photos I posted of my sliding gates you were after ideas. I posted them a bit late, don't know if you saw them.
Ken
 
No I didn't, I'll have a look thanks.

That's teh problem we have with technology nowadays, they try to tell us which is the better bull when we really should just tust our eye and common sense.
 
Bulls look good to me! I think the buyers got a real good deal at that price. Like others have said, if they do well for them they will remember.
 

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