Bull not doing his job?

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We have a new yearling bull out with 20 cows. How do you know if they're doing their job? We've never seen him completely mount a cow, never seen them hunched and straining like they do after they've been bred. Do we have to wait til we see them cycling again or what do you look for? Our other new bull we've seen at work lots!
 
Sometimes you don't see much out of them, but typically a young bull will be very noticeable following them around. Did he have a BSE before turnout? Do you see much signs of heat activity with the cows?
 
Semen test in most cases is a bse. Be on the watch for cows you have seen in heat to recycle. You can catch them returning to heat faster than you can preg check them.
 
JCcattle said:
What is a BSE? He was semen tested, bought him at a public sale where we've been buying for the last 8 years..
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BSE is a Breeding Soundness Evaluation, of which a semen check is part. He passed it I'm sure or he wouldn't have been sold for a breeding animal.
 
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Yes. Well at the sale he hadn't passed quite but they kept him a couple months and retested and brought him to us later
 
Is there a certain amount of time a cow keeps her tail out after being bred? Heifers really show it, but maybe a cow doesn't so much? He's a bit timid whenever we are around even parking on the road and watching, so thats really annoying. I've been trying to spend time out there today to watch him with a cow in heat. He will make little lunges at her but never do his front feet even lift off
 
Watch him. See which cow/s he is following that day. Write the date down. Observe that cow again at 21 days or there abouts. Is he tailing her again? Also, watch to see if hes chinning any of them. Young bulls like that usually are so excited they dont know which way to turn. Have you seen him attempt to mount any?
 
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Watch him. See which cow/s he is following that day. Write the date down. Observe that cow again at 21 days or there abouts. Is he tailing her again? Also, watch to see if hes chinning any of them. Young bulls like that usually are so excited they dont know which way to turn. Have you seen him attempt to mount any?
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I would suggest he go home mark which cow he was after on the calendar. Count 18 days from today and start watching for her to come in to heat again.
 
Ok, we will just wait! The earliest recorded cow was May 27 so we will start watching 18 days for her from then. Also will definitely keep and eye on that stinker to see if he does actually do what he's supposed to. Also might try that chalk trick if we get them closer to corral system.
 
How hot is it in western Canada? Sometimes they're stealth breeders at night/very early morning when it's cooler. I also look for muddy flanks or hair rubbed on the cow(s) in question. But agree with keeping track of which cows he's hanging around with & see if they come back into heat.
 
Well at the sale he hadn't passed quite but they kept him a couple months and retested and brought him to us later
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I would contact the producer with your concerns AND request a copy of the BSE evaluation. Please note that a satisfactory BSE score merely confirms he's capable of settling females on that particular day. Libido (the desire to copulate) and do so properly is equally important. Your comments about his behavior including "shyness" would greatly concern me.
 
It's been really hot. In the 30s Celsius. Maybe that has an impact! I really really hope he's just a sneaky smart breeder cuz im very excited about his calves!

Ok, we will contact him. I'm quite sure if we see cows cycling again the breeder would bring us another bull. But I too would want to see the evaluation in real. It was strange how at the sale DH said this bull was really calm, but since we've had him he's just a shy baby. Idk if the change of farm upset him that much, or what. New bulls are usually a little shy but not like this!
 
I wouldn't think the heat would matter all that much until it gets above 35C.
Mine would rather me swat his flies off than bother with the frisky cow (yet)
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