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flaboy-

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Well, I bout got throw-ed last night. Took the new guy for a spin to work on steering and braking. After a while he was doing ok so I thought I would get him out of 1st gear. A little tap on the flank with a stick and he picked up pace. The second or third tap he got into a stiff trot that I stopped after 50 yards or so as it was hard on the butt.

I had been told he had been ridden at a walk and trot but that was all. I decided it was time to move his lazy butt. A few taps on the flank and he goes rodeo. Everything was good the first three bucks other than he slammed my butt into the saddle once. On about the fourth one he goes up off all four, comes down and jigs to the right. Oops, I bout went off the left. Got way over on the left but managed to find something to grab with my right hand (reins in the left) and didn't hit the dirt. In an effort to keep my balance I was pulling hard on the reins in my left hand and it finally pulled his head around far enough to the right that he stopped. Just in time I might add. I got center again and walked him off.

Now I did a couple things (maybe more) wrong that I knew better. I was not using my saddle and the stirrup length was too long. That caused me to not be able to get pressure on the left foot fast enough which put me over on the left side as he turned. I should have expected the worse (that would have saved the slammed butt in the saddle I think). Being an old fort, I should have had hand on the saddle for support (goes with expect the worse). When you ride these guys at my age, style points don't count no more. :lol:

Funny how fast the mind works. I remember thinking, "OK I handled those bucks ok". I remember thinking "I thought he might crow hop but this is out and out bucking". At the point where I thought I might come off I looked at my left foot to make sure it was not stuck in the stirrup too far and thinking, "that's good position". Then in my mind I thought "I can't let him dump me the first time he tries this". With the confidence that my foot was in good position and I had managed to grab the saddle, I pulled myself back up center.

Was an E ticket ride for an old man but look forward the next round.
 
MillIronQH":193lvd8k said:
The worst wreckss I've ever had I was riding someone else's saddle. :( Z

I heard that. I knew right away what some of my problems had been when I stepped off of him. Both of my calves were super tight which meant I had been trying to stand on my tip toes in the stirrups. :shock:
 
You got a plowed field or some sandy land??? Take him out for a loooooong walk /trot,then try that lope..With your own saddle..and somebody with a cellphone!!
 
peg4x4":1kijhq44 said:
You got a plowed field or some sandy land??? Take him out for a loooooong walk /trot,then try that lope..With your own saddle..and somebody with a cellphone!!
now flaboy you know you wont be able too live with your self if you have too use a cell phone. get him in a round pen and lope his ass off. ti ll he's foaming between the legs. then take him out and drop the reins if he cuts up again repeat as necessary ;-)
 
flaboy, i am going to school with my donkey this weekend at a brad cameron clinic thingie....hopefully she will be under the saddle and not on top of it when we are done....do you have one of those blow up spacesuit things you can lend me....i may need that.... :cboy: i have some kevlar underwear that i can lend you???? :D
 
flaboy, riding someone elses saddle without adjusting the stirrups very nearly got Dad killed last spring - the only thing that saved him was the fact that he did all this on Legs, and not Tomi. Legs shied, the stirrups were too short, Dad's knee gave out, he went off and was hanging off the side of the horse with his foot caught in the stirrup. Legs is not dead broke, by any means, but she and Dad have a special kind of relationship and she stood still long enough for Dad to get his foot worked loose and go the rest of the way off. He knew better, he just got impatient and didn't want to take the few extra minutes to adjust the stirrups. Please, I'm asking you, don't ever make that mistake again.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions folks. I do appreciate it. Oscar P, 20 years ago I would have done it your way. :lol:

Msscamp, I promise to never ride an unbroken or green broke horse without first adjusting my stirrups ok?

The old bones were a little stiff today and I had other chores so round two did not happen last night.

Alacowman, I like your idea too. I guess I let my youthful enthusiasm override this old body. :shock:
 
flaboy-":3tpjabqb said:
Msscamp, I promise to never ride an unbroken or green broke horse without first adjusting my stirrups ok?

Thank you. :) Please feel free to call me Mother Hen, if you like. :lol: :lol: The fact of the matter is, I've come to like you and I would really hate for anything to happen - especially if it could have been avoided.
 
msscamp":2xvxuhox said:
flaboy-":2xvxuhox said:
Msscamp, I promise to never ride an unbroken or green broke horse without first adjusting my stirrups ok?

Thank you. :) Please feel free to call me Mother Hen, if you like. :lol: :lol: The fact of the matter is, I've come to like you and I would really hate for anything to happen - especially if it could have been avoided.

Ok mom, your just saying that right? :lol:

I went out of town for a few days on the iron pony so I may just get back in the saddle tonight. I plan to break out the spurs as this fella doesn't respond to just heels much and turning to put the crop on him gets me more out of position than I really want to be.
 
careful with those spurs they can get you in a sht storm fore you can hollar. and stay strait when you crop one you can reach back and spank without twisting in the saddle that way you can grab leather if you have too.
 
I was just re-reading this and thinking. If he's stiff at the trot and then breaks in two when you try to lope him out You may have other problems. He could be hurting somewhere. A back out of alignment is the most common for what you describe. Take your thumb and index finger and press down between each vertabrae starting at the withers. If he flinches or trys to drop out from under you you may have found the answer. Stand him up straight on a level surface (concrete slab is the best) and look at him from in front and behind. Does he look crooked or out of balance. The next thing could be his teeth. Have his wolf teeth come in yet? If so they need to come out. Just a couple of thoughts that might or might not help.Z
 
If it's the saddle you should see evidence of this as soon as you put weight in the stirrup.

As far as cold backed... Alot of "coldbacked" horses have been fixed by spinal adjustments. If you turn wrong or take a fall the wrong way and knock your back out you dern sure don't want anybody putting any pressure on it do you?Z
 
flaboy-":chvwph2m said:
msscamp":chvwph2m said:
flaboy-":chvwph2m said:
Msscamp, I promise to never ride an unbroken or green broke horse without first adjusting my stirrups ok?

Thank you. :) Please feel free to call me Mother Hen, if you like. :lol: :lol: The fact of the matter is, I've come to like you and I would really hate for anything to happen - especially if it could have been avoided.

Ok mom, your just saying that right? :lol:

I went out of town for a few days on the iron pony so I may just get back in the saddle tonight. I plan to break out the spurs as this fella doesn't respond to just heels much and turning to put the crop on him gets me more out of position than I really want to be.

No, I'm not just saying that. :lol: :lol: I think I'd go easy on the spurs - they have been known to cause more problems than they solve! ;-)

I tend to agree with Milliron about this horses back possibly being out.
 
I can check the back but I suspect this big boy just wants his own way. He sure will get out and chase my other fella around the pasture at a dead run with no problem. I did the pressure test on the spine before I bought him and he showed no signs of pain.

Had a cold back once. Rodeo every time you got on him for the first few seconds to a minute, then he was a good as gold after that. Then again, I was much younger then.

I understand all the concern about the spurs. Some horses just plain don't like them. My experience has been those that don't like them don't need them. This boy is lazy until he don't want to do what ya want him to.

I did get to get back on him last night due to other things I had to take care of from being out of town for a few days. Hopefully tonight.

MillIronQH, he has had his wolf teeth pulled. I think he just wants to be a butt. Next time I try to take him through the gears I will go to a larger pasture and bring him up to speed more slowly. Then on the other hand I have had them go rodeo the first time and never do it again if I stayed on. I was told he had been walked and trotted only before I got him. Could it be the trainer didn't like the next gear either? :lol:
 
OK, here is an update. Due to the dang time change and some work needing to be done on the farm I was unable to work this boy much until this past weekend. I had rode him in a small paddock at a walk but that was it until last Sat.

Saturday morning I decided to take some advice from here and put him in the round pen and worked him on some stuff and then basically exercised him until I got him into a good sweat. He was not breathing hard though. I saddled him up and went into a 30 acre field that is sort of clear but has a lot of cabbage palms everywhere. Well, I had a hard time getting him into a trot but got him there and then pressured him with the heels until I got him into a canter. Rodeo! Buck, buck, buck, every single time. Fortunately mom (Msscamp) had made me adjust my stirrups :-) Anyway I kept at him and finally after an hour or so got him to just crow hop a little each time. My butt got sore so I put him away.

Sunday morning I saddled him up and took him to the field and jumped on. Got him to a canter and buck, buck, buck. I got the crop on his butt and made him go again, and again, and again. He quit the bucking but got barn sour on me. He would just fight me to go back home. I had lost my crop somewhere so I got off and got me a stick. Tried to get him to go away from home and he would fight me every way he could. He finally got to where he wanted to rear up. I got him straight and put the stick to his butt and figured he would rear and he did. As he came up I smacked him between the ears with the stick. He went away from home then. I had no more trouble out of him after that. I could bring him to a run and other than steering he did just fine. I think this old boy (3YO) just had gotten his way before and needed a good old fashion whipping.

Got to admit my inside thighs were a bit sore yesterday (Monday) and I had a couple bruises from the bucking but I think I have him on his way now. I can get him going with minimal heel pressure now. I will still be on guard with him for the next round but I think I have about rode the buck out of him.
 

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