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Now no fighting, just state them and the site you got them from and move on. I'm trying to figure out some stats on a few of our bulls and top cows.

So what's the breed averages for the breeds you know?
 
I guess I needed to clarify. I was wanting weights, not EPDs, searched for quite a while and all I found was EPDs for the breeds I was looking for. Figured somebody would know what, Hereford, Angus, and R. Angus had for average weight.
 
Jake":11a6z26y said:
I guess I needed to clarify. I was wanting weights, not EPDs, searched for quite a while and all I found was EPDs for the breeds I was looking for. Figured somebody would know what, Hereford, Angus, and R. Angus had for average weight.
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I thought that was what you were looking for, but it won;t do any good.
A couple of years ago I contacted several breed associations via telephone and they all said the same thing, "Those data aren't available". I know that it is, but obviously it isn;t compiled in that format

dun
 
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Angus whether is be red or black varies several hundred pounds from ranch to ranch. I know for Beckton Red Angus they want their mature weight to be 1100 lbs. I want mine to be 1300lbs. Another breeder has his 1500 lbs. Your enviroment dictates how big your cows will get. Even if they are bred smaller, if they are in an enviroment where their is good water and plenty of grass they will get alot bigger than where they don't have alot of feed. I bought several potloads of cows from a commercail ranch at Sheridan, WY a few years back. Their mature weight there was 1150 lbs, brought them home and they completely changed. They now weigh 1400lbs, and we don't feed our cows in the winter unless we get to much snow so they can't graze. The grass is just a little more powerful here, I guess.
 
BRG":nfrpjnx2 said:
I bought several potloads of cows from a commercail ranch at Sheridan, WY a few years back. Their mature weight there was 1150 lbs, brought them home and they completely changed. They now weigh 1400lbs, and we don't feed our cows in the winter unless we get to much snow so they can't graze.
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Sure nice to hear that someone else has heavier cows then would be expected. While feed is important, the genetics to turn the feed into meat or fat in the winter is still (I think) the key.

dun
 
Jake, are you looking for mature weights on breeds? I think management will make too much difference for anyone to have reliable figures on that. But these are from the Angus Sire Summary if you're looking for AHIR Avg Adjusted Weights and Measurements:

BW: Bulls - 81; heifers - 76
WW: Bulls - 654; heifers - 591
YW: Bulls - 1164; heifers - 865
Y Hgt: - Bulls - 50.6; heifers - 48.8
Scrotal: 36.33 (Average in 1980 was 31.78)

These are averages reported from 2004.
 
Charolais 2004
90- Bulls BW
672 -Bulls WW
1212 -Bulls YW

85 -Heifers BW
606 -Heifers WW
918 - Heifers YW
 
I think it is a mistake to ask for actual weights, unless all the cattle are in the same lot under the same management. Management and environment vary too much. Using EPDs and cross breeds EPDs is much more accurate. There is a huge difference between even identical genetics when you are talking about a range herd in New Mexico, fescue fields in North Alabama, or semi-marsh in Florida, or some purebreeder with heavily fertilized fields, creep feed, and 15 pounds a day of mixed ration trying to influence his EPD numbers. The MARC data is more accurate than anything we could possibly post here.
 
Frankie":3mfwjzin said:
Jake, are you looking for mature weights on breeds? I think management will make too much difference for anyone to have reliable figures on that. But these are from the Angus Sire Summary if you're looking for AHIR Avg Adjusted Weights and Measurements:

BW: Bulls - 81; heifers - 76
WW: Bulls - 654; heifers - 591
YW: Bulls - 1164; heifers - 865
Y Hgt: - Bulls - 50.6; heifers - 48.8
Scrotal: 36.33 (Average in 1980 was 31.78)

These are averages reported from 2004.
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Not looking for mature weights. I'm very satisfied with our mature weights and the one's I'm not satisfied with I know what I want don't want to compare uncomparable programs to ours in the MW area.
 
Brandonm2":20tpgtp5 said:
I think it is a mistake to ask for actual weights, unless all the cattle are in the same lot under the same management. Management and environment vary too much. Using EPDs and cross breeds EPDs is much more accurate. There is a huge difference between even identical genetics when you are talking about a range herd in New Mexico, fescue fields in North Alabama, or semi-marsh in Florida, or some purebreeder with heavily fertilized fields, creep feed, and 15 pounds a day of mixed ration trying to influence his EPD numbers. The MARC data is more accurate than anything we could possibly post here.
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I'm coming up with CHEAP epds. Our calves weighed X amount at X number of days and use breed average EPDs matched with the breed average weights to come up with an extreme composite/ interim epd. Grant it this isn't at all very accurate but I need something to do in my spare time.
 
Jake, the following averages were reported for registered Polled Herefords in 2003.

Bulls Heifers
BW 88, 83
WW 596, 551
YW 1029, 813
 
MikeC":1niz8iwd said:
Jake, Here are EPD Models for maternally influenced traits.

Have fun: http://www.beefimprovement.org/guidelines/App5-1.PDF
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Thanks Mike, but HOLD BE NICE I don't have that much free time as to put that to use. I was just gunna be a cheater. I'm too bad at calculus to use that stuff :lol: I'll try to come up with something out of it though. It's greatly appreciated
 

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