Brahmans?

[russoniellov1]

Is the brahman breed still useful in the southern states? they may as well be extinct, from what I read on most of the posts, same said for longhorns, just breed black?????. what do you think?

 

[J. T.]

Some of the best, if not THE best mama cows are Brahman hybrids (F1's) They have the title "Queen of the Cow Country", and these F1's have to be produced from purebred Brahmans. Brahman breeding is a big asset in the South, regardless of what some people may tell you. However, too much ear will get you docked at the sale barn. I'm sure Caustic or Ruby will chime in and be able to tell you a wealth of info.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Some of the best, if not THE best mama cows are Brahman hybrids (F1's) They have the title "Queen of the Cow Country", and these F1's have to be produced from purebred Brahmans. Brahman breeding is a big asset in the South, regardless of what some people may tell you. However, too much ear will get you docked at the sale barn. I'm sure Caustic or Ruby will chime in and be able to tell you a wealth of info.

There are three essential breeds to the southern cattleman and that is brahmans, herefords and angus. Nothing can compete with the hybreed vigor and mothering ability of the Bramer cross with these other breeds. They bring other benefits to the table as well as insect resistance as well as heat tolerance. Todays Bramer is an American breed developed by Shanghi Pierce who had the foresight to fill a void in the American beef industry. Have conditions changed yes as Cattlemen today are not running hundreds of head on salt grass country only seeing there cows once or twice a year at a roundup. These cattle had to survive on there own with no assistance. Demographics have changed drastically from yesterdays Cattleman with health care, epd's and the other management systems as well as the average Rancher today in the state of Texas runs 25 head and a profitable cow is not the most important factor for today's rancher. JMO

 

[TheBullLady]

The Brahman breed is thriving here in Texas. Rarely do you drive any distance without seeing either straight Brahmans, or the hybrid crosses. Really need that "ear" for their heat tolerance. Besides, they make excellent momma cows.

 

[backhoeboogie]

Someone bought up a big ranch about 4 miles from here and divided it. There is a nice fertile 100 acre field cut out of it right on the highway. I pass it every day. It is full of humped back long eared Brahmans, when they are rotated in. The calves are interesting to watch. Two or three times I have pulled off of the shoulder and just watched the calves play. They are all Brahman with nothing else mixed in with the herd.
IMO purebred but I have not met the new owners.

 

[Ryder]

Alive and well in Louisiana. Best 'doing' commercial cattle have some brimmer in them.

 

[Beefy]

think again russ, it'll be a cold day before all the cattle of the world are black. brahmans are here to stay.

 

[cypressfarms]

Is the brahman breed still useful in the southern states? they may as well be extinct, from what I read on most of the posts, same said for longhorns, just breed black?????. what do you think?

russoniellov1,

Be careful about what you read on the posts.

There is no better moma cow than a true brahman F1, period. Until another breed comes along that can outproduce it, which seems unlikely - but possible, they will be around for a long time......So people will keep asking caustic about his camels :lol:

 

[dbc]

what makes them such good mama cows??

 

[cherokeeruby']

what makes them such good mama cows??

The Brahman half.

 

[Caustic Burno]

what makes them such good mama cows??

The Brahman half.

Well that could be a subject for debate if certainly makes them friendly and playful with a new calf.

 

[Scotty]

what makes them such good mama cows??

The Brahman half.

Well that could be a subject for debate if certainly makes them friendly and playful with a new calf.

Nuttier than a fruit cake. They cross very well with Angus bulls.


Scotty

 

[backhoeboogie]

The only answer I have is, they just are. Why, I dunno. They momma them poor calves to death. Debate would be good. I have been watching this thread for responses.

Grandaddy used to run 'em over in Marshall, TX. He had one huge bull that came out of Argentina. I have never seen another bull as tall as he was and he was a total pet. He crossed them up with Santa Getrudis and had a good herd.

What you don't want to do is hurt one of Momma's babies. If you do, you'll see the wrath of what you thought were docile animals.

 

[Caustic Burno]

what makes them such good mama cows??

The Brahman half.

Well that could be a subject for debate if certainly makes them friendly and playful with a new calf.

Nuttier than a fruit cake. They cross very well with Angus bulls.


Scotty

Brangus have quite a few nuts in the basket also maybe a half dozen less, and those have a box of matches to lite the fuse.

 

[Scotty]

what makes them such good mama cows??

The Brahman half.

Well that could be a subject for debate if certainly makes them friendly and playful with a new calf.

Nuttier than a fruit cake. They cross very well with Angus bulls.


Scotty

Brangus have quite a few nuts in the basket also maybe a half dozen less, and those have a box of matches to lite the fuse.

Right. I have heard there are two types of Brangus. The good ones and the nutty ones. Really i was talking about the terminal calves produced by Angus bulls and F1 cows.


Scotty

 

[Caustic Burno]

what makes them such good mama cows??

The Brahman half.

Well that could be a subject for debate if certainly makes them friendly and playful with a new calf.

Nuttier than a fruit cake. They cross very well with Angus bulls.


Scotty

Brangus have quite a few nuts in the basket also maybe a half dozen less, and those have a box of matches to lite the fuse.

Right. I have heard there are two types of Brangus. The good ones and the nutty ones. Really i was talking about the terminal calves produced by Angus bulls and F1 cows.


Scotty

I know you were plugging them hatchet ass bulls I prefer a Hereford on the cross get a cow with a little more sense. ;-)

 

[D.R. Cattle]

Go Brafords!

 

[D.R. Cattle]

what makes them such good mama cows??

The Brahman half.

Well that could be a subject for debate if certainly makes them friendly and playful with a new calf.

Nuttier than a fruit cake. They cross very well with Angus bulls.


Scotty

After working with thousands of them, i can tell anyone that "nutty" or "looney" or any other of the words used to describe Brahman type cattle are not accurate. "Misunderstood" is a much better description. If you know what makes them tick and what makes them blow a gasket, they can be pretty easy to handle by simply respecting their ways. I'd say these cattle originated in a place that had lions, tigers and all the other good predators. They survived by learning to fight and outsmart. They're just smarter than other cattle and that tends to aggravate most cattlemen. The outfit I'm working for has a herd of Nelores. I've gotten plenty of snot blown on my pockets while on the way up the rails in the pens. I'm not particularly fond of them. Eating quality is low. Predator evasion is high. But they sure are the toughest thing I ever laid eyes on. If you stuck a herd of English cows and one Brahman or Nelore in a pasture full of lions, who would still be alive the next day? Survivability is unmatched.

 

[Scotty]

Go Brafords!

I hear the main reason that Braford did not take off like Brangus was the attitude.


Scotty

 

[la4angus]

Go Brafords!

I hear the main reason that Braford did not take off like Brangus was the attitude. Scotty

That's right. The basic same quality of meat but the tigers are much crazier. They are good mamas though.