Bold or crazy

[Santas and Duhram Reds]

either way it is interesting

http://www.cattlenetwork.com/drovers/columns/Crossbreed-or-straightbreed-173908531.html

 

[Limomike]

I would say it is a bold statement. Plus the fact that they want to cut out commercial cattlemen using the "other" breeds bulls.
Hybrids are here to stay.. no matter what.

 

[ALACOWMAN]

might be more to do with the CAB controversy,, more angus percentage in your herd,, less scepticism :?:

 

[highgrit]

Maybe going to start DNA testing for CAB. Good or bad here it comes, hopefully it will pay off for the Angus folks. If the rest of the cattle breed associations would do as much as the AAA, the price and quality of beef would be better.

 

[ALACOWMAN]

i dont mind raising what the consumer wants, but ill be dammed if their gonna treat me like the Goverment

 

[u4411clb]

American Angus Association tells people to buy all of the Angus cattle they can. I don't really see a surprise here. I am sure Ford is not going to tell you to buy Ford trucks but Dodge's cars. They are going to tell you Ford has everything you need and buy as many as you can afford and then buy 2 more. This guy I don't know him personally but is trying to get hits to his website and fuel the Angus anger. He never even quotes the Angus publication maybe because it doesn't sound as bad as he is making it out to seem. There is never going to be a single breed of cattle in the US or world because all cattle don't work everywhere. And I run angus bulls and if there were one breed it wouldn't be Angus with all those defects they have in their bloodlines. You get to stacking those defects on top of Angus again and again and there is no breeding up program you will have a huge mess and I think AAA knows that and that is 1 reason I doubt this story.

 

[glacierridge]

I would say it is a bold statement. Plus the fact that they want to cut out commercial cattlemen using the "other" breeds bulls.
Hybrids are here to stay.. no matter what.

I think so too. I wouldn't give up my crossbred girls for anything.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

American Angus Association tells people to buy all of the Angus cattle they can. I don't really see a surprise here. I am sure Ford is not going to tell you to buy Ford trucks but Dodge's cars. They are going to tell you Ford has everything you need and buy as many as you can afford and then buy 2 more. This guy I don't know him personally but is trying to get hits to his website and fuel the Angus anger. He never even quotes the Angus publication maybe because it doesn't sound as bad as he is making it out to seem. There is never going to be a single breed of cattle in the US or world because all cattle don't work everywhere. And I run angus bulls and if there were one breed it wouldn't be Angus with all those defects they have in their bloodlines. You get to stacking those defects on top of Angus again and again and there is no breeding up program you will have a huge mess and I think AAA knows that and that is 1 reason I doubt this story.

Do you realize that if you are using an Angus bull that is not certified "clean" of defects, your replacement heifers can be carrying the defect? Then if bred to another Angus bull w/ the same defect - voila - defect in offspring.

 

[u4411clb]

Yes that is my point. If most commercial cattleman were to go to Angus I do not believe that in a commercial setting every person would wait to have the correct amount of calves from a bull to prove it clean or the same with their cows. And with a closed herd book in Angus I think you would see allot more genetic defects popping up if most commercial guys switched to an all Angus herd.

 

[cow pollinater]

Yes that is my point. If most commercial cattleman were to go to Angus I do not believe that in a commercial setting every person would wait to have the correct amount of calves from a bull to prove it clean or the same with their cows. And with a closed herd book in Angus I think you would see allot more genetic defects popping up if most commercial guys switched to an all Angus herd.

Cattle that have carrier parents have to be blood tested before they can be registered with the angus association so anyone that buys a registered bull can easily tell if they're a carrier of a known defect or not just by looking at the papers.
I actually aplaud the angus association for their research into genetic defects... It's a hard stance to pick at problems within your own herd. Every time a new defect starts being traced people groan and shudder because all of a sudden their best cow has a new flaw that wasn't there a year ago... That's hard to swallow but for the most part angus breeders have taken that in stride and are willing to keep pushing for better cattle. Where that scares me is with other breed associations. I think the simental folks are pushing testing for angus defects now but at least there for awhile the easy choice for a good cow that was a carrier for genetic defects was to breed her simangus, balancer, limflex etc.

 

[u4411clb]

I agree that registered breeders have taken the steps neccessary. But the point of the article was that they are suggesting putting this process in the hands of commercial cattlemen and people breeding in range conditions. Which I think will be a big problem.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

Actually the Simmental demanded testing BEFORE the Angus had the problem - anything with Chi, Maine or Shorthorn blood had to be tested - now, of course the Angus.

 

[glacierridge]

Just another reason why Simmental remains one of my favorite mainstream breeds.
It's scary how many defects there are and how common they're becoming.

Way too many in the CC world, but at least they are doing really good at having them tested.