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I know black Herefords get hammered on here, and rightfully so. I was just wondering if anybody had heard of the blackfords and what your thoughts were. Apparently the only stipulation is each calf must be half Hereford and half angus.
 
Why not call them black baldies? At last they are requiring the animal to be half Angus half Hereford, unlike black Hereford which they have many breeds hiding in the woodpile.
 
I think that black baldies are about as good a momma cow as you can get, but the guy in Idaho who developed these seems more intent on marketing bulls. I have always been told not to use crossbreed bulls, but does it work in this instance since they are baldie on baldie?
 
Okmaines":2li982cr said:
I think that black baldies are about as good a momma cow as you can get, but the guy in Idaho who developed these seems more intent on marketing bulls. I have always been told not to use crossbreed bulls, but does it work in this instance since they are baldie on baldie?
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Its a crap shoot when a crossbred bred to a crossbred and the results are mixed & it won't be uniformed calf crop.
 
Taurus":2eb9t8nq said:
Okmaines":2eb9t8nq said:
I think that black baldies are about as good a momma cow as you can get, but the guy in Idaho who developed these seems more intent on marketing bulls. I have always been told not to use crossbreed bulls, but does it work in this instance since they are baldie on baldie?
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Its a crap shoot when a crossbred bred to a crossbred and the results are mixed & it won't be uniformed calf crop.
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That is my thinking too.
 
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Okmaines":go4h0qq3 said:
Taurus":go4h0qq3 said:
Okmaines":go4h0qq3 said:
I think that black baldies are about as good a momma cow as you can get, but the guy in Idaho who developed these seems more intent on marketing bulls. I have always been told not to use crossbreed bulls, but does it work in this instance since they are baldie on baldie?
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Its a crap shoot when a crossbred bred to a crossbred and the results are mixed & it won't be uniformed calf crop.
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That is my thinking too.
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At last judging from the pictures, I would say that they have more beefier Blackfords than Black Herefords.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_m6SUckFtw
 
Taurus":2w8h8r2l said:
Why not call them black baldies? At last they are requiring the animal to be half Angus half Hereford, unlike black Hereford which they have many breeds hiding in the woodpile.
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The America Black Hereford Assn requires its animals descend from ancestors registered in either the AHA or AAA. So where's the woodpile you refer to?
 
greybeard":51zy2n99 said:
If they are red angus/hereford x are they officially called Redfords now?
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Had one of those born yesterday!! If she makes the cut as a replacement, I think I will call her "Redford"! Thanks Greybeard!
 
alexfarms":2m5ezcj3 said:
Taurus":2m5ezcj3 said:
Why not call them black baldies? At last they are requiring the animal to be half Angus half Hereford, unlike black Hereford which they have many breeds hiding in the woodpile.
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The America Black Hereford Assn requires its animals descend from ancestors registered in either the AHA or AAA. So where's the woodpile you refer to?
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The woodpile would be the second generation and later selecting for color rather then quality.
 
alexfarms":22vpy1u1 said:
Taurus":22vpy1u1 said:
Why not call them black baldies? At last they are requiring the animal to be half Angus half Hereford, unlike black Hereford which they have many breeds hiding in the woodpile.
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The America Black Hereford Assn requires its animals descend from ancestors registered in either the AHA or AAA. So where's the woodpile you refer to?
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I'm not fully convinced that black hereford are Angus x Hereford. You got some quality black hereford bulls that screams SimAngus in them and most black herefords looks like a hereford x holstein to me.
 
uh, Taurus, you said "unlike black Hereford which they have many breeds hiding in the woodpile."

Read your own post. duh
 
houstoncutter":24iswwsa said:
Hybrid vigor is one of the few "freebies" we get in the cattle business. Why would anyone in a commercial setting not use it?
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Depends on your goals for your cowherd whether or not it is a freebie. There's no such thing as a free lunch, even with hybrid vigor you are giving up something.
 
alexfarms":wtp85uj9 said:
uh, Taurus, you said "unlike black Hereford which they have many breeds hiding in the woodpile."

Read your own post. duh
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Either they had some dairy in the woodpile or a breeder that wasn't being honest or animals that just happened to be poor quality. I'm just not being fully convinced that they are just an angus x hereford cross and no other breeds inside them.
 

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