M-5":aji6itr1 said:Charolais comes to mind as heavy milkers
Ky hills":2p3fpk0b said:Agree with M-5, Charolais can be heavy milkers. I have always thought of Simmentals and Gelbviehs as being known for milking ability.
ALACOWMAN":uj76n7po said:Body condition is the one thing I'd be concerned with...you want a good easy keeper to go along with that.. And sometimes those heavy milkers can be hard keepers.2 leaches at a time can take a toll on their condition..good moderate framed simm would be good...
ALACOWMAN":t7npx1nu said:Hard to beat a good crossbred,, if you venture outside of one breed. The Brahman F1 would e the ticket.. A good Tiger could have one tugging on each quarter.. If she can stay together...
ALACOWMAN":3defbifz said:Stripes depends on the Brahman used.. The colors Not a factor weather they perform better..just a name... I had a few I raised that had a faint tiger pattern and had more Hereford color pattern...tigers are F1s..a true Bradford is 3/8-Brahman. 5/8 Hereford
Including Hereford. ;-)Bullitt":2bzpalt6 said:ALACOWMAN":2bzpalt6 said:Stripes depends on the Brahman used.. The colors Not a factor weather they perform better..just a name... I had a few I raised that had a faint tiger pattern and had more Hereford color pattern...tigers are F1s..a true Bradford is 3/8-Brahman. 5/8 Hereford
Okay, thanks. I was thinking of the cross, not the breed.
I think starting with Herefords is probably the easiest and cheapest way, and Herefords are very versatile for crossing with other breeds.
In theory this does sound like a clever way to make some extra money. In practice this is the worst idea I've ever heard. Getting a cow to accept a new calf can be VERY difficult and with certain cows impossible. The best luck I've had is if the cow's calf dies you skin it and tie the hide on the graft calf. You may have better luck with dairy cross cows, but I'd bet dinner that if you tried this idea once with several, you'd never attempt it again.Good luck.Bullitt":1erusikm said:ALACOWMAN":1erusikm said:Body condition is the one thing I'd be concerned with...you want a good easy keeper to go along with that.. And sometimes those heavy milkers can be hard keepers.2 leaches at a time can take a toll on their condition..good moderate framed simm would be good...
Yes, heavy milkers must eat more. The added feed cost is something to consider.
I think a second calf would just need to be on the cow for three months or so, so I do not think body condition would be reduced much if the cows are provided good hay and minerals.
The idea would be to have a herd of cows and have them calve at about the same time. Then buy the same number of bottle calves as number of cows in the herd. This way twice as many calves could be raised easily. Say you have 30 cows. Using this method you could easily raise 60 calves.
It would take some time and effort to graft the calves onto the cows. I also realize that the right cows would be needed to accept the calves.
I see many Jersey X Angus calves being sold cheaply. And there are many dairies in the area where I live. If these calves can be purchased for $50 each, that would be $1,500 for 30 calves.
If those calves are raised until they are say 600 pounds and sold at $1.25 a pound, that would be $750 per calf. For 30 calves, that would be $22,500. That would be $21,000 profit for those 30 bottle calves, not considering feed/mineral costs and vaccination costs.
Lazy M":2nsr6ylp said:In theory this does sound like a clever way to make some extra money. In practice this is the worst idea I've ever heard. Getting a cow to accept a new calf can be VERY difficult and with certain cows impossible. The best luck I've had is if the cow's calf dies you skin it and tie the hide on the graft calf. You may have better luck with dairy cross cows, but I'd bet dinner that if you tried this idea once with several, you'd never attempt it again.Good luck.Bullitt":2nsr6ylp said:ALACOWMAN":2nsr6ylp said:Body condition is the one thing I'd be concerned with...you want a good easy keeper to go along with that.. And sometimes those heavy milkers can be hard keepers.2 leaches at a time can take a toll on their condition..good moderate framed simm would be good...
Yes, heavy milkers must eat more. The added feed cost is something to consider.
I think a second calf would just need to be on the cow for three months or so, so I do not think body condition would be reduced much if the cows are provided good hay and minerals.
The idea would be to have a herd of cows and have them calve at about the same time. Then buy the same number of bottle calves as number of cows in the herd. This way twice as many calves could be raised easily. Say you have 30 cows. Using this method you could easily raise 60 calves.
It would take some time and effort to graft the calves onto the cows. I also realize that the right cows would be needed to accept the calves.
I see many Jersey X Angus calves being sold cheaply. And there are many dairies in the area where I live. If these calves can be purchased for $50 each, that would be $1,500 for 30 calves.
If those calves are raised until they are say 600 pounds and sold at $1.25 a pound, that would be $750 per calf. For 30 calves, that would be $22,500. That would be $21,000 profit for those 30 bottle calves, not considering feed/mineral costs and vaccination costs.
WalnutCrest":2usi7g43 said:We are trying something ... we have a small group of Aubrac x Jersey calves conning now. The first two hit the ground yesterday.