Before & After 2

[AAOK]

Let's see what everybody thinks of this prospect Show Heifer. Purebred Maine-Anjou, born 5/12/06. I/m anxious to hear your reasons. She has been on feed for about a month. The weaned Spring Calves this year have been the worst in history for our area, averaging almost 100lbs. light due to the heat and drought.

Before

After - 10 days later

Any Difference? She will be better fitted. There's lots of hair on those legs.

 

[*Cowgirl*]

She sure cleaned up nicely. I still think she'll be a decent show heifer.

 

[jaydill]

She's cleaned up just like I thought she would. She looks real nice dolled up like that.. should make a nice show heifer for you. Are you planning on selling her?

 

[AAOK]

She's cleaned up just like I thought she would. She looks real nice dolled up like that.. should make a nice show heifer for you. Are you planning on selling her?

No Showman left around this household. We sell 'em all.

 

[Bek]

I wasn't that impressed when you first posted a picture of her, but she's cleaned up really well and should be a nice show heifer.

 

[jaydill]

She's cleaned up just like I thought she would. She looks real nice dolled up like that.. should make a nice show heifer for you. Are you planning on selling her?

No Showman left around this household. We sell 'em all.

Check your PM. ;-)

Jay

 

[WarriorPatriot]

Well done. Its amazing what a little cleaning up can do for an animal. She's pretty nice.

 

[aplusmnt]

Good Job Dan! You know there is probably a whole other thread lying in this one. The value of being able to recognize a show calf in the pasture green vs one that has been fed a little and fitted.

Most people can pick a decent calf once it is fitted but it takes a good eye to know rather she is worth keeping as a show calf right off the cow.

Tell us a little about her breeding if you would?

 

[*Cowgirl*]

Good Job Dan! You know there is probably a whole other thread lying in this one. The value of being able to recognize a show calf in the pasture green vs one that has been fed a little and fitted.

Most people can pick a decent calf once it is fitted but it takes a good eye to know rather she is worth keeping as a show calf right off the cow.

Tell us a little about her breeding if you would?

:clap:

 

[AAOK]

Good Job Dan! You know there is probably a whole other thread lying in this one. The value of being able to recognize a show calf in the pasture green vs one that has been fed a little and fitted.

Most people can pick a decent calf once it is fitted but it takes a good eye to know rather she is worth keeping as a show calf right off the cow.

Tell us a little about her breeding if you would?

Thanks Don. You hit the nail right on the head as to my purpose in this little experiment. From all the comments I have read on the Show Board posts, I have not been too impressed with the "Show Ring" knowledge of many of our experts. Don't get me wrong, this is a great forum to gain and pass along information and knowledge, but none of us know all the answers (yours truly included).

It was obvious from the original post that no one was too confident about this heifer based on her pasture (before) picture. The value of being able to envision a mature, fitted show calf in a pasture baby should be a top priority for all of us. Thousands of dollars can be saved on show calf purchases buying pasture calves rather than "Sale" calves. I would like to point out that a two demensional picture is not the best way to judge cattle, but our options here are limited to just that.

I could see this heifer's potential from day one, but I had the advantage of knowing her lineage. The heifer is sired by BK IcePick. Her Dam is DCA Kalli, a DMCC Polleroid X FR Magic nine year old cow raised and exhibited by our younger daughter. She was shown 44 times; 38 times first in her class; was Champion or Reserve 21 times, and was the Reserve National Champion Maine-Anjou Female in 1998. It is downright scarry how much this calf resembles her Dam at this age. The heifer is a little better fronted, has better hair, and a little more muscle.

Keep those comments coming. I am truly interested in your opinions, before and after.
Dan

 

[aplusmnt]

Good Job Dan! You know there is probably a whole other thread lying in this one. The value of being able to recognize a show calf in the pasture green vs one that has been fed a little and fitted.

Most people can pick a decent calf once it is fitted but it takes a good eye to know rather she is worth keeping as a show calf right off the cow.

Tell us a little about her breeding if you would?

Thanks Don. You hit the nail right on the head as to my purpose in this little experiment. From all the comments I have read on the Show Board posts, I have not been too impressed with the "Show Ring" knowledge of many of our experts. Don't get me wrong, this is a great forum to gain and pass along information and knowledge, but none of us know all the answers (yours truly included).

It was obvious from the original post that no one was too confident about this heifer based on her pasture (before) picture. The value of being able to envision a mature, fitted show calf in a pasture baby should be a top priority for all of us. Thousands of dollars can be saved on show calf purchases buying pasture calves rather than "Sale" calves. I would like to point out that a two demensional picture is not the best way to judge cattle, but our options here are limited to just that.

I could see this heifer's potential from day one, but I had the advantage of knowing her lineage. The heifer is sired by BK IcePick. Her Dam is DCA Kalli, a DMCC Polleroid X FR Magic nine year old cow raised and exhibited by our younger daughter. She was shown 44 times; 38 times first in her class; was Champion or Reserve 21 times, and was the Reserve National Champion Maine-Anjou Female in 1998. It is downright scarry how much this calf resembles her Dam at this age. The heifer is a little better fronted, has better hair, and a little more muscle.

Keep those comments coming. I am truly interested in your opinions, before and after.
Dan

I know it is after the fact but I was curious if she was Ice Pick, I know you been using him some. Has that feminine look but Power that Ice pick gives.

If I was to change the heifer I would make her a little deeper in the flank. I worry just a little about her being a little to sickle hocked but that could very well be I have looked at to many post legged club calves, which in itself is worse than anything.

Now having said all that and having saw Kalli in person and pictures on your website, I went back and looked at her and thing is I would have said she was a little Pinched in the flank also when she was young. But when she was at the prime of her show career I would have never thought so. I will take the liberty of posting an example of Kalli from your web page.

If you do not want me linking your pics then please let me know and I will remove them.

Kali when young

Kali when Older

 

[AAOK]

If I was to change the heifer I would make her a little deeper in the flank. I worry just a little about her being a little to sickle hocked but that could very well be I have looked at to many post legged club calves, which in itself is worse than anything.

I will take the liberty of posting an example of Kalli from your web page.

If you do not want me linking your pics then please let me know and I will remove them.

Donald,
Please feel free to brag on our stock anytime you want.
BTW: The set this heifer has in her hocks should be excellent considering she is a breeding heifer. Any straighter and some judges would define her as too post legged regardless of how she might track. I'm really never concerned with the flank at this age.

 

[ilfarmer92]

Nice job! Send that sucker over here would ya? :lol:

 

[SKF Show Cattle]

I like your heifer a lot!!!

 

[cowgirlxupx1034]

Nice heifer, I think you will do well with her!

 

[6M Ranch]

I didn't post on the before thread, so I'm not sure what this experiment is proving. The difference now is that you have hair covering the areas where she needs improvement. So is the point that green heifers have potential, or fitted heifers could be hiding things? Still a nice heifer, time and feed will tell.

 

[Keren]

Nice heifer, really like her front end. Mother is beautiful. I do think being Maines they both should be showing a little more butt.

 

[aplusmnt]

Nice heifer, really like her front end. Mother is beautiful. I do think being Maines they both should be showing a little more butt.

Personally I do not care for the super big butted heifers. I think a heifer should not look like a show steer. I like some a good muscle shape to them and some thickness don't want them to be Angus butted, but also not be some big show steer butt either.

The one above to me shows a nice butt and thickness for a heifer in my opinion. But everyone has their own taste. Personally I like a Cow that can go both ways, you can breed her for maternal calves or you can throw a Steer bull on her to get show steers.

 

[AAOK]

Nice heifer, really like her front end. Mother is beautiful. I do think being Maines they both should be showing a little more butt.

Personally I do not care for the super big butted heifers.
The one above to me shows a nice butt and thickness for a heifer in my opinion. But everyone has their own taste.

Absolutely!!!!
It all depends on whether you are talking about Market Heifers or Breeding Heifers. Breeding heifers should never exhibit excessive muscle. Too feminine should always win out over too muscular/masculine.

 

[Keren]

I do agree with you regarding brood females not carrying excessive muscle especially over the pins. However I do believe that femininity and muscling can go together, its just hard to find. I actually really like the heifer, I think she should do well in the ring and the paddock. I did not mean to imply anything to the contrary. I am however, suprised that being a euro breed, she doesnt exhibit more muscling. To me she looks more like a british heifer.