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Did you see the latest study on the Atkins Diet?

"The case for low-carbohydrate diets is gaining weight. Researchers at the Stanford University School of Medicine have completed the largest and longest-ever comparison of four popular diets, and the lowest-carbohydrate Atkins diet came out on top."

I won't post the entire article. It's here:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 075749.htm
 
Frankie":1ysn03ef said:
Did you see the latest study on the Atkins Diet?

"The case for low-carbohydrate diets is gaining weight. Researchers at the Stanford University School of Medicine have completed the largest and longest-ever comparison of four popular diets, and the lowest-carbohydrate Atkins diet came out on top."

I won't post the entire article. It's here:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 075749.htm

The Check Off program should take this and RUN with it.

Seems like they have always been slow to respond. :shock:
 
if you are diabetic it is very dangerous to follow the Atkins diet, have you ever known anyone on the Atkins, their breath is awful, and as I was told by my Nutritionist, if you cut any food sources from your diet you will loose weight, but soon regain it when it is re-introduced into your diet, as your body needs all the nutriants of a healthy eating plan. five small meals is better than three big ones. little and often is the rule, I as a diabetic have been told. and it's working for me.
 
Short of any genetic mutation, it's pretty logical:

Food Intake (aka calories) must = Exercise (calorie burning) to not gain weight.

The USA has serious weight problems... Just notice the school kids photos on the sports pages, club pages, etc. Most are between "overweight" and approaching "clinically obese". Both boys and girls.

When there are "middle school" kids weighing between 150 and 250 pounds (pre-adolescent and early adolescent)... well, yes, there is a national problem... And...considering the number of kids having gastric surgery and/or cosmetic surgery to get rid of the excess fat and eating problems...

Off my soapbox...
 
chrisy":209gz356 said:
if you are diabetic it is very dangerous to follow the Atkins diet, have you ever known anyone on the Atkins, their breath is awful,
Chrisy do you have any links to either of those statements. I've been around lots of women on Atkins diets (and a couple of men) and I've never noticed any bad breath...but I want' kissing them either. Maybe you get closer than me. I thought that sugar was what diabetics avoided , not meat.
 
chrisy":24f0n7rf said:
if you are diabetic it is very dangerous to follow the Atkins diet, have you ever known anyone on the Atkins, their breath is awful, and as I was told by my Nutritionist, if you cut any food sources from your diet you will loose weight, but soon regain it when it is re-introduced into your diet, as your body needs all the nutriants of a healthy eating plan. five small meals is better than three big ones. little and often is the rule, I as a diabetic have been told. and it's working for me.

I have some close friends who are diabetic and their doctors told them to get on the Atkins diet.

Saw a show on the Lakota Indian tribe not long ago and the research contributed the high incidence of diabetes to excessive carbohydrate intake. They said the tribe had been on a meat diet for centuries and the sudden change to today's sugar, flour, "carbs", etc. intake had taken it's toll on the insulin production system.

Eat the beef. It's good for you!
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Congress approves $750M for Indian diabetes
Posted to NDN AIM by Ishgooda

THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2002

http://www.indianz.com/News/show.asp?ID ... 1/diabetes

Congressional leaders on Wednesday praised the approval of what they said was a record $750 million in funding to fight the growing epidemic of diabetes in Indian Country.

The House and Senate both authorized a five-year extension to the Special Diabetes Program. The money will go to diabetes prevention, treatment care and research for American Indians and Alaska Natives.

"We cannot lose our focus on the disaster that diabetes is having on our population, particularly the American Indian people. The problem could overwhelm our hospitals and clinics and signal the demise of too many lives," said Sen. Pete Domenici (R-N.M.), a member of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee.

The package cleared the House last week and won approval in the Senate yesterday by unanimous consent. Lawmakers said the funding will help tribes meet the health care needs of their members.

"It's a great stride toward improving the health status of Native Americans," said Rep. Dale Kildee (D-Mich.), the co-chairman of the Congressional Native American Caucus, a bipartisan group.

Diabetes afflicts Native Americans at increasingly high rates. Among some tribes, as many as 50 percent of the adult population has the disease, which has no cure.

The majority of cases in Indian Country are of a form called Type 2. It results when the body can't use energy from food properly, resulting in fatigue, increased appetite, nausea, increased thirst and blurred vision.

If untreated, diabetes can lead to blindness, kidney failure and amputations.

Typically, type 2 diabetes was known only among adults. But it is showing up in Native children at earlier ages.

A CDC study showed that Native children ages 15 to 19 have the highest rate of type 2 diabetes in the country. The prevalence was nearly three times greater than non-Indian youth.

Diabetes is not just an Indian problem, however. Among the greater population, the CDC has reported a 30 percent increase during an eight-year period in the 1990s. This is tied to a growing number of overweight and obese Americans.

Treating type 2 relies on changing behaviors. Eating well and exercising more can prevent the onset of heart disease, stroke and high blood pressure.

According to the National Institutes of Health, roughly 15 percent of Native Americans in the United States have this disease, which can rob them of their eyesight, their limbs, their kidneys and eventually their lives. They are 2.6 times more likely to have diagnosed type 2 diabetes than non-Hispanic whites.

That is a radically changed picture from the early part of the 19th century, when health surveys of Southwestern tribes found only one documented case of diabetes, Warne said.

He blamed the current epidemic more on environmental changes than on genetics.

In the 1920s and 1930s, rivers in the Southwest were dammed up to make way for large cities such as Phoenix. That effectively wiped out traditional farming for tribal communities. Fish, game and farm foods were replaced with government commodities such as lard and flour. The activities associated with fishing and farming were suddenly gone as well.

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cowboyup216":28q3aj8m said:
So running arrow bill your saying that since I was 5ft6 and weighed 145 pounds in 6th grade that I was borderline obese? I dont think so i was as skinny as a rail and taller than everyone. Now im nearly 6ft6 and weigh 245 which is what I have weighed since my senior year in high school. I agree that most of the kids today are getting to be porkers but if they were tall like me at a young age and weighed that much I wouldnt say they were fat. Then again I have always been bigger and taller than everyone else. Heck I weighed 75 pounds in kindergarten.

Yes, you make a lot of sense! A LOT has to do with "Frame Score" and height.

What I was addressing were those kids of "average" height that look "pudgy" and "soft." And, there is the issue of male vs. female in body type, weight, etc., as we all know.

It's those 8 to 12 year olds in the 4'-10" to 5'-5" that "Look fat" and have more "soft" than muscle showing with "frame scores in the 4-5 range. When their faces look pudgy, etc. and are in those weight ranges.

Thus...

Too much "sitting", playing video games, "hanging out"...

Not enough "work," exercise to condition their bodies.

And, there is some research that suggests (among other potential physical issues) that overweight girls are reaching puberty at a faster rate than before...
 
ollie?":pwdz97ec said:
chrisy":pwdz97ec said:
if you are diabetic it is very dangerous to follow the Atkins diet, have you ever known anyone on the Atkins, their breath is awful,
Chrisy do you have any links to either of those statements. I've been around lots of women on Atkins diets (and a couple of men) and I've never noticed any bad breath...but I want' kissing them either. Maybe you get closer than me. I thought that sugar was what diabetics avoided , not meat.

Yes it is sugar, and processed foods that are to be avoided, as it contains sugar, Meat is protein and a diabetic needs, what is called Complicated Carbs, slow release foods not get quick fix foods. Slow carbs are things like baked beans, wheat cereal, porridge oats, brown rice, pulses, bread with nothing taken out, not the white proceed stuff. Green vegtables, fruit (fruit and veg five a day) and a little meat, a portion about the size of a deck of cards., a little dairy, and a small amount of fat, not saturated, as is found in red meats. a good sensible eating plan. If you feel yourself going into a hypo, your blood sugars are falling, you need to take some sugar ie a fun size Mars bar or dextroes tablet, to boost your sugar quickly, but you should not have this on a regular basis. If you take things out of your diet and you have a near empty stomach the gasses will come up and hence Halitosis. I have had experiance of it as I once tried the Atkins before I knew I was Diabetic, and my mouth always felt bad, that furry tounge feel, I carried a tooth brush around with me and mouth wash.

The Native Americans have become obease, as their eating habits have changed not just from eating a lot of meat but also by cutting out the Natural Pulses and fruits they had in their diet, according to a programme I watched on the Discovery Channel. It remarked on how they were eating things like fast foods and chips, and proceeded starch foods, as years ago they would use foods that grew naturally from the land, potatoes, berries, and such like, they were more active as we all were, they lead a much healthier life style. Not so sedentary as a lot of people seem to be nowdays.
http://www.diabetesuffolk.com/Living%20 ... 20Diet.asp
this site tells a little of the pro's and con's for Atkins.
I am only going on what I have been told over the years by many Doctors, Specialist Diabetic Nurses and Nutritionists, in one-one consultations and group seminars. I am an Insulin dependent Diabetic. I have three - four injections a day, of slow release insulin.
 
My husband lost nearly 100 pounds on Atkins. He's gained some of it back because he got kinda bored with it. Every now and again, you gotta have bread. He's about to get back on it. Funny thing is, he was strict on it when we met, and I started doing Atkins by proxy, and gained weight.
 
Running Arrow Bill":1h64g4wq said:
cowboyup216":1h64g4wq said:
So running arrow bill your saying that since I was 5ft6 and weighed 145 pounds in 6th grade that I was borderline obese? I dont think so i was as skinny as a rail and taller than everyone. Now im nearly 6ft6 and weigh 245 which is what I have weighed since my senior year in high school. I agree that most of the kids today are getting to be porkers but if they were tall like me at a young age and weighed that much I wouldnt say they were fat. Then again I have always been bigger and taller than everyone else. Heck I weighed 75 pounds in kindergarten.

Yes, you make a lot of sense! A LOT has to do with "Frame Score" and height.

What I was addressing were those kids of "average" height that look "pudgy" and "soft." And, there is the issue of male vs. female in body type, weight, etc., as we all know.

It's those 8 to 12 year olds in the 4'-10" to 5'-5" that "Look fat" and have more "soft" than muscle showing with "frame scores in the 4-5 range. When their faces look pudgy, etc. and are in those weight ranges.

Thus...

Too much "sitting", playing video games, "hanging out"...

Not enough "work," exercise to condition their bodies.

And, there is some research that suggests (among other potential physical issues) that overweight girls are reaching puberty at a faster rate than before...

I am here to tall you, I work on a high school and here are some real porkers.
 
The Atkins Diet was very popular around here about three yeas ago. I live with a successful Atkins dieter and never noticed any bad breath. The Atkins Diet recommends drinking a LOT of water.

Your stomach should never be empty. Atkins encourages several small meals a day. If you do get hungry, you tend to eat too much. You cut out most of the processed foods, bread, chips. You simply stop eating sugar. Green vegetables are encouraged. I think one of the things that makes Atkins so successful is that people eat a lot of animal protein and are more satisfied. They feel full. So they actually eat fewer calories.

Like any diet or eating program, it doesn't work for everyone. But it was good to see this research vindicating Dr. Atkins. He took a lot of abuse from the medical/animal rights communities while he was alive.

BTW, isn't that "complex carbs?" I don't think I've ever heard of "Complicated Carbs," but I'm willing to be educated if you've got a link.
 
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/200 ... 0lif1.html

here is one link to the complicated and complex carbs, the Diabetic Nurse always refered to them as complicated carbs, until she mentioned them I had never heard of them either.

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-dia ... _diabetes/

this is the site I use all the time for information, I am also a member. I work with the diet on this site and I am in control of my diabetes and weight with it. I have lost 7 stone and am now maintaining my goal weight very well. (there are 14 pounds to a stone.) I got very depressed after the loss of my Stepson, and did not want to do anything, but after a lot of help, I am now functioning properly again and in control, with my eating and excercise regime.
The breath thing was my experience with the Atkins diet, my Doc: told me it was that also and he adviced me to come off of it.
 
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