Assisting the Beef Cow at Calving Time while cross breeding

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Assisting the Beef Cow at Calving Time while cross breeding or using to large a bull..
Ok, if the jokers are done playing games here is a site worth reading in full.

Six to 10 percent of all calves born in beef cow herds in the U.S. die at or soon after birth. About half of those deaths are due to calving difficulty (dystocia). This multi-million dollar annual loss is second only to losses from failing to conceive.
Calving difficulty has received much more attention in recent years, primarily because of the mating of larger European breeds of bulls to British breeds of cow. Increased calving problems are also being encountered within purebred breeds, as genetically large bulls are often mated to cows of only average size.
http://extension.missouri.edu/p/G2007#factors
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Cross bred cattle have better conception rates and all major breeds have CED EPDs
 
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GuySanders":ly89n059 said:
Assisting the Beef Cow at Calving Time while cross breeding or using to large a bull..
Ok, if the jokers are done playing games here is a site worth reading in full.

Six to 10 percent of all calves born in beef cow herds in the U.S. die at or soon after birth. About half of those deaths are due to calving difficulty (dystocia). This multi-million dollar annual loss is second only to losses from failing to conceive.
Calving difficulty has received much more attention in recent years, primarily because of the mating of larger European breeds of bulls to British breeds of cow. Increased calving problems are also being encountered within purebred breeds, as genetically large bulls are often mated to cows of only average size.
http://extension.missouri.edu/p/G2007#factors
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Wow a study from 25 years ago about crossbreading. I have learned so much tonight. :bs: NOT
 
Kenny, that was going to be my point! That article is OLD, and a lot has changed in genetics since it was written!
 
Fire Sweep Ranch":1m2zcf9t said:
Kenny, that was going to be my point! That article is OLD, and a lot has changed in genetics since it was written!
Exactly. In 1986 I had Charolais bulls and probably assisted fewer calves than many of the purebred operations. I had horned hereford before that and had as many with them. But I have always paid attention to the EPD's.
 
I did some research and I think there might be a link between calving trouble and crossbreds, but only when fed ethanol by-products high in sulfur.
 
Andyva":ktzl3ytk said:
I did some research and I think there might be a link between calving trouble and crossbreds, but only when fed ethanol by-products high in sulfur.

And only if their black hair has a red tint.
 
Someone needs to tell all of our crossbreed calves that they are too small. Surprisingly so far 75 lbs. has been the biggest calf we have had this year out of our new bull. Maybe if I read this report to the cattle they will do a better job of growing before they're born. :roll:
 
Dale L":z5uyrpj8 said:
Someone needs to tell all of our crossbreed calves that they are too small. Surprisingly so far 75 lbs. has been the biggest calf we have had this year out of our new bull. Maybe if I read this report to the cattle they will do a better job of growing before they're born. :roll:
Not enough hybrid vigor.
 
Personally I consider myself very lucky that these crossbred calves are surviving at all. I now know that they should have all died.
 
I'm still trying to figure out the difference in the sulfur in ethanol by-products that we know causes black cows to turn red and die when they are bred to a different bull, and the sulfur that they put in salt blocks that are sold in every feed store I've ever been in. Are there different kinds of sulfur? Always thought it was an element.
 
Dale L":ikkn5qdn said:
Someone needs to tell all of our crossbreed calves that they are too small. Surprisingly so far 75 lbs. has been the biggest calf we have had this year out of our new bull. Maybe if I read this report to the cattle they will do a better job of growing before they're born. :roll:
Your cows could look up and read the report themselves if they weren't exposed to such a high sulfur content. We need a new category on EPDs--SR--sulfur resistance.
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We shouldn't give this guy the time of day. The stuff he says is just......wasting time. I guess we are all that bored to keep coming back and reading and posting on his topics lol.
 
Big Cheese":2epf78iy said:
We shouldn't give this guy the time of day. The stuff he says is just......wasting time. I guess we are all that bored to keep coming back and reading and posting on his topics lol.

You are obviously not paying close enough attention. He is telling you that all your cows will eventually die.
 

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