are your cows gmo?

[dieselbeef]

we know you didn't actually do it..but are your cows eating gmo corn..soybeans..wheat...
Iwhat about the possibility of gmo labels on animals fed gmo feeds could become a reality. once the animal eats a gmo product the thought is that the proteins enter the blood and then thereby change the makeup of the animal.
I thought gmo was a dna thing. but thru the food chain I guess the thought is its possible to still be ingesting a gmo product if you eat the animal that ate the gmo feed
also the other issue with the gmo thing is that there is actually spreading of the gmo seed by weather and animals excrement and carrying..like pollens..bees or just blowing in the breeze for that matter.

so how do you even know.
what got me thinkin bout this is now that the company I work for..Tropicana..is marketing non gmo juice..means that the citrus pellets I get are also non gmo..prior to this I didn't know any different ..never thought about it...and im not sure if I really even care or not.
but it is something to think about...

supposing you would be required to track all the feed your animals ate all the way back to seed..

could you do it and then market them as non gmo cattle..grass fed non gmo cattle...non gmo milk..by producers who know exactly what and where their cows certified non gmo feed came from

thoughts without hurting yourselves on this....it made my brain swell I think :hide:

 

[M-5]

Horse pucky, Just a bunch of fruit loops trying to find something to complain about.

 

[Aaron]

First world problem. Wonder if the poor Central African farmer, standing over the corpse of his family cow who starved to death, says, "Well, at least she died as an organic cow."

 

[Kingfisher]

I just want some non GMO shine...

 

[dieselbeef]

tough question..mustve been over ya'lls head

 

[Banjo]

They say you are what you eat.....so I don't eat chickens feet.....to quote Tim Farmer.
I'm not a fan of GMO's. But to each his own, I got a good buddy who grows a lot of gmo corn and beans, He is sort of in a quandry because its soon gonna be planting time and he says there is NO money in it now at 3.50 corn and 8.00 beans...maybe I'm getting off subject, but to answer your question....yes a steer fed out on gmo corn would be gmo beef IMO.
I personally think gmo's will end somewhere down the road, although right now there is no required labeling, a lot of food manufacturers are going proactive and putting non-gmo labels on their packaging. It may be 5, or 10 years down the road or more but I think sooner or later the gmo food market will dry up. If gmo labeling ever passes congress then gmo's will be dead in the water.....just looking at it from a business perspective.

 

[Muddy]

To be honest I'd rather eat a GMO corn than an organic corn. But I don't think you can get a GMO from eating a GMO corn fed beef or a deer that is feeding off on corn fields. But M5 is right, the group will always find something to complain about, even if it poses no threat to your health. GMO is the least worries of the health risk...just saying.

 

[Aaron]

tough question..mustve been over ya'lls head

Not over my head. Can it be done, yes. Would I do it, no. Biggest question, does it pay an ample premium to do so? Very much doubt so.

As far as GMO contaminating a non-GMO consumer, I have an answer to such thinking - take a simple, entry-level course in genetics. People fear what they have no understanding of.

 

[M-5]

tough question..mustve been over ya'lls head

I thought I was pretty clear, it's all a bunch of horse hockey.

 

[boondocks]

Ingesting genetically modified organisms will not change your own genetic makeup per se. There are other risks to GMOs, of course. Here's just one snippet. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18989835/

 

[Son of Butch]

Within every adversity lies a seed of greater benefit. - W. Clement Stone
Or in layman terms, every cloud has a silver lining.
Not for me...but there is probably a heck of a good money making opportunity for whomever wishes to pursue it.
No one has ever gone broke under estimating the intelligence of the American public.

 

[Nesikep]

The short story for me is I don't like the idea of patented seed, and the stranglehold a single company could exercise.. both in terms of litigation, and in terms of seed supply.

 

[dun]

The short story for me is I don't like the idea of patented seed, and the stranglehold a single company could exercise.. both in terms of litigation, and in terms of seed supply.

I don;t see any one company having a "strangle hold". It's a me too business. Whatever one company comes up with, another is going to do them one better.

 

[pdfangus]

well I try to walk the line on this one because part of my clientele is big commercial grain farmers and part of my clientele is homesteader type with a few acres and a dream of being self sufficient.

but one thing I have noticed this past year.....

my animals do not eat corn with enthusiasm any more.....they will eat it but they have to learn to eat it....
I have observed this with the horses, the goats, and the heifers I raised this past summer.

never before in my life have I had to teach animals to eat cracked corn. this year I did. I feed it to one horse who is old and a hard keeper....but he had to learn to eat it and the first few days sorted it out of his grain mix.

The heifers I was feeding were eating a commercial 16% pellet that the owner provided...I added a little corn and the heifers at first sorted it out as well took a week or ten days before they were cleaning it up.

I feed the goats a little something just to get them to come when I call them....when I tried to transition them from pellets to corn...they just flat refused to eat the corn...took a couple of weeks for them to start cleaning it up.

I probably would not have noticed all this except that I hand feed daily and catch and release most animals daily....The heifers eat in headlocks....so I saw what they ate and didn't when I turned them out...the goats are feed in two pens...big goats in one and little younger goats in the other...saw what was left in the pan...horses are stalled and fed.

 

[dun]

well I try to walk the line on this one because part of my clientele is big commercial grain farmers and part of my clientele is homesteader type with a few acres and a dream of being self sufficient.

but one thing I have noticed this past year.....

my animals do not eat corn with enthusiasm any more.....they will eat it but they have to learn to eat it....
I have observed this with the horses, the goats, and the heifers I raised this past summer.

never before in my life have I had to teach animals to eat cracked corn. this year I did. I feed it to one horse who is old and a hard keeper....but he had to learn to eat it and the first few days sorted it out of his grain mix.

The heifers I was feeding were eating a commercial 16% pellet that the owner provided...I added a little corn and the heifers at first sorted it out as well took a week or ten days before they were cleaning it up.

I feed the goats a little something just to get them to come when I call them....when I tried to transition them from pellets to corn...they just flat refused to eat the corn...took a couple of weeks for them to start cleaning it up.

I probably would not have noticed all this except that I hand feed daily and catch and release most animals daily....The heifers eat in headlocks....so I saw what they ate and didn't when I turned them out...the goats are feed in two pens...big goats in one and little younger goats in the other...saw what was left in the pan...horses are stalled and fed.

We had similar but opposite result when we started feeding a grain supplement that had pellets in it instead of just straight grain. They would sort out the pellets and leave them but gobble up the grain.

 

[pdfangus]

yes I agree with that being normal.

any change in feed needs to be gradual and over time and the animals have to make the adjustment.

historically I have used cracked or ground corn as the first grain to introduce animals to feed as it was the most palatable...never before had much refusal.

 

[dieselbeef]

is it gmo corn..and if you eat thier meat will you be eating gmo meat..consensus says yes

 

[Banjo]

Within every adversity lies a seed of greater benefit. - W. Clement Stone
Or in layman terms, every cloud has a silver lining.
Not for me...but there is probably a heck of a good money making opportunity for whomever wishes to pursue it.
No one has ever gone broke under estimating the intelligence of the American public.

Would you mind translating?

 

[dun]

No one has ever gone broke under estimating the intelligence of the American public.

Would you mind translating?

Play to the lowest common denominator and someone will buy it. Or more simply put "There's a sucker born every minute"

 

[M.Magis]

is it gmo corn..and if you eat thier meat will you be eating gmo meat..consensus says yes

Actually, the "consensus" doesn't say so. Only a handful of very vocal people say so, with nothing to actually back it up that's I've ever seen.