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"Cattle Markets Still Freefalling: Is There An End in Sight?

Fed cattle and heavy feeder cattle markets have dropped sharply in recent weeks under the weight a host of supply and demand factors and bearish market psychology. Futures markets in particular, have probably turned from being too high during much of the recent past to likely being oversold now with respect to summer market expectations. Although it is too early to predict with much confidence, there are some indications that markets are beginning to stabilize and at least establish some footing.

Through much of February and March, poor packer and feedlot margins resulted in a weekly tug of war that generated much volatility from week to week without any clear victor. However, since the March Cattle on Feed report confirmed the large feedlot inventories looming in coming months, the feedlots have clearly come out the losers with fed cattle prices dropping enough to improve packer margins while feedlot losses are very severe. The problems come from both supply and demand.

On the supply side, increased feedlot inventories, combined with huge carcass weights have resulted in higher beef production. For the year to date, beef production is up 5.6 percent. Slaughter has increased by 2.2 percent while the balance of increased meat production is due to heavy carcass weights which have added the equivalent of 15,000 to 20,000 head per week to slaughter totals. There are several factors that may indicate improving market conditions over the coming weeks. Fed cattle prices have dropped enough that marketings are picking up. This last week, cattle slaughter was up 3.8 percent compared to one year ago. Also this last week carcass weights decreased perhaps indicating that weights have peaked and will begin declining seasonally. Finally, April and May feedlot placements are likely to be relatively low after several months of strong placements. It is possible, that the feedlot situation by June 1 could look significantly improved compared to current conditions.

The key to the above paragraph will be on the demand side. A more aggressive feedlot marketing rate will mean that beef production will continue high in a meat market loaded with beef, pork and poultry. So far this year, the boxed beef market has been very sensitive to additional beef supplies and the additional beef sales needed in the next few weeks may put additional pressure on boxed beef prices. If packer margins erode severely again, slaughter rates would likely decrease and contribute to delays in improving feedlot supply fundamentals. The poultry industry will likely curb production plans somewhat based on poultry market weakness but further weakness could develop if Asian flu continues to decrease poultry consumption around the world.


Source: Derrell S. Peel, OSU Extension Livestock Marketing Specialist

Link: http://cattlenetwork.com/content.asp?contentid=28544
 
Could be trouble for all the Cubicle Cowboys that were going to get rich quick. Its time for a correction just hope the bottom doesn't fall out like it has in the past. Be pretty rough on 40 or 50 cent calfs, but I have seen go lower.
 
Caustic Burno":18utkdqp said:
Could be trouble for all the Cubicle Cowboys that were going to get rich quick. Its time for a correction just hope the bottom doesn't fall out like it has in the past. Be pretty rough on 40 or 50 cent calfs, but I have seen go lower.

Hate to see prices drop, but I been wanting to pick up 20-40 head. But Prices been so high kinda been waiting to see if market makes some corrections in near future as you guys have talked about.
 
aplusmnt":33e9t71w said:
Hate to see prices drop, but I been wanting to pick up 20-40 head. But Prices been so high kinda been waiting to see if market makes some corrections in near future as you guys have talked about.

I'm hoping that the cow market doesn;t drop too soon, adn I don;t really think it will. If it does it will be the shortest rebuilding cycle in history.

dun
 
aplusmnt":2n34k78t said:
Hate to see prices drop, but I been wanting to pick up 20-40 head. But Prices been so high kinda been waiting to see if market makes some corrections in near future as you guys have talked about.
From the old cattlemen's proverbs:

Downtrending market corrections can only be accurately predicted to occur at two times. When you've just bought cattle or when you have cattle ready to sell.
 
True.

i sure hope Tom, Dick, and Harry dont all start unloading there cows all at once.
 
I can see it in buyer confidence around here. Went to a bull sale today, prices were sharply off from the same farm's sale in December. Also, a lot of the ~$1200 lots (base priced) of bred heifers went unsold.
 
I'm seeing the opposite. Special Stock cow and Bull sale 2 weeks ago. The few poeple I talked with believe the prices were record setters for this area.
I have a brother who is a legend in his own mind for financial investments. He is just now trying to buy into cows. Keeps telling me a infusion of his money will be just the ticket.
I couldn't pen him down on where he was getting his info to invest in cows now, but I believe it's coming from invetment articles. Those with stock in the NE pastures can speak to this better. It reminds me of the oil/ag boom/bust in the early 80's.
Too many jumping on the wagon breaks the axles.
Could financiers be pushing this? A distant relative (bank president) cornered me about the cattle market 3-4 months ago. I got the feeling his loan portfolios are becoming ag heavy and he is getting worried about holding alot of paper.
He also remembers people mailing keys to cars, boats and homes to him because they had enough. I don't think he wants to worry about holding pens full of cattle.
 
cfpinz":2xm6gt4u said:
I can see it in buyer confidence around here. Went to a bull sale today, prices were sharply off from the same farm's sale in December. Also, a lot of the ~$1200 lots (base priced) of bred heifers went unsold.

I think the bull market is softening around here, too. On the other hand, there are so many more bull sales than there were just 3-5 years ago, it might just be there are too many bulls being offered.
 
dun":wns1q5hp said:
aplusmnt":wns1q5hp said:
Hate to see prices drop, but I been wanting to pick up 20-40 head. But Prices been so high kinda been waiting to see if market makes some corrections in near future as you guys have talked about.

I'm hoping that the cow market doesn;t drop too soon, adn I don;t really think it will. If it does it will be the shortest rebuilding cycle in history.

dun

Didn't we have the longest liquidation cycle on record?
 
Texan":3qtjkt42 said:
aplusmnt":3qtjkt42 said:
Hate to see prices drop, but I been wanting to pick up 20-40 head. But Prices been so high kinda been waiting to see if market makes some corrections in near future as you guys have talked about.
From the old cattlemen's proverbs:

Downtrending market corrections can only be accurately predicted to occur at two times. When you've just bought cattle or when you have cattle ready to sell.


How true how true I have about got this stock market thing figured out here and on Wall Street buy high and sell low right?
 
Caustic Burno":2dubzln3 said:
I have about got this stock market thing figured out here and on Wall Street buy high and sell low right?

That's what I ahd alwasy heard, buy high sell low and make it up on volume!

dun
 

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