Are Charolais cattle a wilder in nature than some other popular beef breeds. I ask because a neighbor told my brother he had some Charolais heifers for sale. My brother said he had always heard they were wilder in nature. Our neighbor said that was why he wasn't keeping them. He said they are fine in open pasture, but when you try to do something with them, like herd them in the barn or the trailer, they are nutty(his words). I was wondering what people here think.
Are Charolais wilder
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Anonymous
Mine have never given me a problem. If anything they are too friendly.
Taurus
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Don't think I ever met a wild Charolais. There are lot of Charolais cattle being showed at our local fairs, included the ones in 4-H.
denvermartinfarms
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As for as I know almost any breed can be wild or not. My Charolais are as gentle as dogs, but most all my cattle are because I don't keep them if there not. As far as saying that Charolais are wild in general, that is not right.
Red Bull Breeder
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Charolais are like a lot of other cattle don't rattle there tree and they won't rattle yours. Work them quite and easy you will have no trouble.
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Anonymous
If the rumors are coming from/about one guys cattle or one line of genetics, it could be the way the cows are handled or the genetics of those particular cows. Just a thought
denvermartinfarms
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I have never heard that, now I have heard of some that were, but the breed is not known for it.
While I have never owned or really have been around charolais much, I have heard the same thing. I have been around black angus and also heard the same thing. So with that clearifacation, I would think they are like a lot of other breeds over the last years and culled for good disposition traits. From what others have said they sound okay, my main question is birth weights compared to some other breeds.
Edited to add, I never have been around a black angus to fear, but like hereford I'm sure they are out there.
Edited to add, I never have been around a black angus to fear, but like hereford I'm sure they are out there.
Come for a visit Alan. I got a black angus cow that would love to meet you :lol: . Cows are like women, there are crazies in every breed, except with cows most are normal and there are just a few crazies.Alan":29fx6c4x said:
Isomade":203ijllv said:
:lol: no thanks, but for a beer and a cook out okay, I'd say bar-b-que but in the northwest it means something different than in the south. :lol:
Just as in any breed, a few years back I bought a nicely bred Hereford bull. Well while walking the pasture on two different occasions he run me behind a tree, just a scary SOB, maybe he just had me buffaloed. He finished out the last month during the breeding season and had a choice ...... My freezer or the trailer. I lost a little over a grand on that yearling bull.
With that being said I'm looking at a few Black Angus bulls to use as my clean up bull, first non Hereford bull I will on. So i'm telling myself all Black Angus have the bad disposition bred out ..... They had the bad disposition bred out ...... They have..... :lol: And seriously I know most do, but any breed has a nasty one here or there.
I have a saying with new bulls, "you're a daisy if you do". :cowboy:
Don't tell yourself that! I run Angus bulls and they are all out of top AI sires. By far the calmest ones I have seen are Out if War Party. But most of The others will get your goat in the corrals. No matter the DOC score.
I've had my fair share of char cows and bulls. I would say they are definatly wilder. That is not to say that I haven't also owned many gentle ones to. No question in my mind, on average you will see more crazy charlois cattle than any other breed that I have owned.
Isomade":z3jgi0ui said:
Now you're just playing with my head. :D
Joking a side, I know (some don't) bulls are bulls! Not pets, not calm rub me down down when you want animals. They demand and need respect, any breed any size, but I need their respect also. When I walk around my cattle with a bull included in the pasture he better calmly walk away. That's the way I raise my clean up bulls, don't fear me but give me space.
Good input Bigfoot, any cow, steer, bull, any day.
Stocker Steve
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Alan":1fr02ufl said:
Chars were worse years ago. Some of the in bred local ones are still a bit difficult.
I purchased one Char heifer who tried to go over the shed, over the corral panel, and then got hung up for a bit. I walked over to gave her a love tap and a reprimand - - she then slide back and turned to walk into the chute. Never had a problem after that.
Our worst cows are already burger. Our next worst cows are CAB, and also on the hard cull'in list.
Just walk through these Char cows and don't buy any that leave the pasture, or paw at the dirt, or weigh close to a ton.
We only ever had one cow that we attached the word 'wild' to and that was 'The Wild Charolais #41A". I got pretty good at swinging a steel baseball bat with that cow around. Having said that, she was a crossbred and only half Char. Purebred Chars are few and far between around here, but the crossbreds are some of the worst. Not as bad as Angus, bit still pretty bad.
I only seen one cow leap multiple 6 foot pens at the stockyards and make a run down the tracks to catch the nearest CNR train, and she was a Char cross.
I only seen one cow leap multiple 6 foot pens at the stockyards and make a run down the tracks to catch the nearest CNR train, and she was a Char cross.
Typically Charolais isn't bad for disposition, probably the best of the Continentals I've dealt with.
Alan, my experience with angus bulls are, they are fine to walk around between them, but they don't like to be worked, they do like to dig holes, jump fences and break things, though. They also seem to fight a lot more than my Herefords do.
Alan, my experience with angus bulls are, they are fine to walk around between them, but they don't like to be worked, they do like to dig holes, jump fences and break things, though. They also seem to fight a lot more than my Herefords do.
KNERSIE":ujlkoxci said:
Thanks for the heads up on possible trouble in the working pen, my last Hereford bull was a little bit of trouble in the pen when he got alone. I quickly learned to hit him with pour on the way by, he wasn't agressive, he would do whatever it took to get out, go over, through, crush panels. That and big BW bout him a ticket on the trailer.
I had heard about Angus and fences as well as fighting, but no one around me has cattle and I keep only one bull so with luck he'll just stick around the ladies.
