Another Scare Tactic or...

[slick4591]

Really hard to tell which is which these days. MIT is respected, but I suspect, like most studies, they will lean towards the funding. Feel free to discuss.


Glyphosate Herbicide will Cause Half of All Children to Have Autism by 2025.

 

[torogmc81]

I'm far from an expert and far from the person that would know the answer, but here's but two takes:

1. I clicked on the link, and took immediate notice after skimming the article to the type of ads on the page. Grass fed bison, pure essential oils from France, all natural repellent.

2. My question is, how long have we been using Glyphosate? My guess is for a really long time, but I wouldn't know the answer.

 

[Deepsouth]

Stop spraying your children with it.

Seriously I was at a noxious weed control class last summer and they said coffee is more toxic to humans than glyphosate.

 

[Rafter S]

This line from the article also makes me look at it with a large amount of skepticism:
"You may recall our story on the CDC whistleblower who revealed the government’s deliberate concealment of the link between the MMR vaccine (for measles, mumps, and rubella) and a sharply increased risk of autism, particularly in African American boys."

 

[slick4591]

I think the hard part of all this is deciding who's information is correct. Two sides to all this and you don't see many that fit into the grey area. Looking at Seneff's background it pretty well shows the camp she's in.

 

[sim.-ang.king]

This line from the article also makes me look at it with a large amount of skepticism:
"You may recall our story on the CDC whistleblower who revealed the government’s deliberate concealment of the link between the MMR vaccine (for measles, mumps, and rubella) and a sharply increased risk of autism, particularly in African American boys."

I bet they put round up in the MMR vaccine.


Where's Sir Loon when you need him? He'll get this all straighten out.

 

[Jogeephus]

Its bullshyt. If you want to know the real cause of autism just look at this chart.

 

[Bigfoot]

Its bullshyt. If you want to know the real cause of autism just look at this chart.

Mad me laugh.

 

[lmbrsn]

:D :D :D Like

 

[sim.-ang.king]

Its bullshyt. If you want to know the real cause of autism just look at this chart.

Vegan, and Vegetarian diets may actually have a link. Lack of fat in a diet = lack of brain development.

 

[john250]

Really hard to tell which is which these days. MIT is respected, but I suspect, like most studies, they will lean towards the funding. Feel free to discuss.


Glyphosate Herbicide will Cause Half of All Children to Have Autism by 2025.

Interesting that the somewhat sinister photo used to illustrate this "hit piece" is a can of Lasso, which was far more toxic than Roundup and was almost entirely replaced by Roundup. Indicates that the target audience for this propaganda has never used an herbicide, nor ever had a gooseneck hoe in their hands. Lasso had a carrier which was a volatile, stinkin' thing. Akin to sniffing model airplane glue . A day spraying Lasso was not fun. Primary use was grass control in Soybeans.

 

[hurleyjd]

I am not scientist so it would be difficult to discuss this.

 

[backhoeboogie]

I am not scientist so it would be difficult to discuss this.

Go to a baseball game. Grandkids get eat up by mosquitoes. No one has spray so you go get yours out of the truck. Spray your grandkids shirts. Take their hats to the side and spray them. Parents ask to borrow your spray. You hand it to them. They then go nuts telling you how harmful it is and that you should buy "all natural". Their lecture goes on for 10 minutes and you hear about all these kids going in to reaction from using buy spray.

I have been using that same stuff since I was a kid. Never seen anyone get sick from using it. I'm not a scientist either.

Their kids will likely catch malaria.

 

[hurleyjd]

I am not scientist so it would be difficult to discuss this.

Go to a baseball game. Grandkids get eat up by mosquitoes. No one has spray so you go get yours out of the truck. Spray your grandkids shirts. Take their hats to the side and spray them. Parents ask to borrow your spray. You hand it to them. They then go nuts telling you how harmful it is and that you should buy "all natural". Their lecture goes on for 10 minutes and you hear about all these kids going in to reaction from using buy spray.

I have been using that same stuff since I was a kid. Never seen anyone get sick from using it. I'm not a scientist either.

Their kids will likely catch malaria.

Is Roundup really good to keep mosquitoes off of the kids. Anyone else every tried it.

 

[hurleyjd]

, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) sets maximum legal residue levels for every pesticide, for dozens of crops. But a new study in the respected journal Toxicology has shown that, at low levels that are currently legal on our food, Roundup weed killer could cause DNA damage, endocrine disruption and cell death. The study, conducted by French researchers, shows glyphosate-based herbicides are toxic to human reproductive cells.

The potential real-life risks from this are infertility, low sperm count, and prostate or testicular cancer. But, “Symptoms could be so subtle, they would be easy to overlook,” says Theo Colborn, president of The Endocrine Disruption Exchange. “Timing is of critical importance. If a pregnant woman were to be exposed early in gestation, it looks like these herbicides could have an effect during the sexual differentiation stage. They really lock in on testosterone.” The bottom line is more research is needed before we can fully understand the effects of glyphosate exposure.
A Perfect Poison

The researchers’ most disturbing findings were not only the cytotoxic and hormonal responses to low-dose exposures, but the fact that the “active” ingredient — glyphosate — had much less of a toxic impact alone than the branded chemical mixtures sold to homeowners and farmers nationwide.

Solvents and surfactants, legally considered “inert ingredients,” are mixed with glyphosate in products such as Roundup weed killer to create chemical formulations that increase mobility and more direct access to the cells. “Those same factors that aid penetration into a plant, also aid penetration into the skin,” says Vincent Garry, professor emeritus of pathology at the University of Minnesota. “These chemicals are designed to kill cells.”

Despite being termed “inert,” these added (and usually secret) ingredients are anything but benign, as the manufacturers have claimed for decades. The new French research found the surfactants not only amplify the effects of glyphosate, but glyphosate also amplifies the effects of the surfactants. Basically, one plus one equals something larger than two.

Herbicide manufacturers are subject to fewer rules in the testing of inert ingredients than they are for active ingredients, explains Caroline Cox, research director at the Center for Environmental Health in Oakland, Calif. “The tests the EPA requires for inert ingredients cover only a small range of potential health problems,” Cox says. “Testing for birth defects, cancer, and genetic damage are required only on the active ingredients. But we’re exposed to both.”

 

[Ryder]

I think the hard part of all this is deciding who's information is correct. Two sides to all this and you don't see many that fit into the grey area. Looking at Seneff's background it pretty well shows the camp she's in.

"Camp she is in" ? Explain please.

 

[slick4591]

Looks to me like she is preaching the evils of Glyphosate only. There's always two sides and she doesn't talk about the other.

Glyphosate, Roundup, Glyphosate-Tolerance GM Soybeans, Chemical Extracted Soybean Food Oil/Soybean Powder Cause Serious Harm to Health of American/Chinese People. Compiled and translated by I-wan, Chen ([email protected]). (Download)

Roundup and GMO and the Rise of Modern Disease. Jan. 22, 2015. Talk in Honolulu, HI, sponsored by Seeds of Truth. (Powerpoint Slides) (PDF Version)

Roundup and GMOs: Are We Gambling with the Future of Food? July 29, 2014, Talk presented at the National Cheng Kung University, Tainan, Taiwan (Powerpoint Slides) (PDF Version)

Presentation at an Informational Hearing on Genetically Modified Organisms for the Agricultural and Rural Affairs Committee of the Pennsylvania legislature. (Powerpoint Slides) (PDF Version)

Is Roundup the Toxic Chemical that's Making Us All Sick? June 5, 2014, Groton School, Campbell Performing Arts Center, Groton MA. (Powerpoint Slides) (PDF Version)

Interview with Richard Longland on glyphosate and autism (integrated with slides): (Part One) (Part Two)

Presentation on glyphosate on May 24, at AutismOne in Chicago (Powerpoint Slides) (PDF Version) (Video Presentation)

Presentation on glyphosate on April 28, 2014 hosted by the MIT and Wellesley Alumni Associations (Powerpoint Slides) (PDF Version)

Why Soy is Unhealthy: It's NOT what you Think! Slides of talk presented at Yale's 12th annual "Unite for Sight" Conference, Mar. 29, 2015. (Powerpoint Slides)
Presentation on April 12, 2014 at Unite For Sight's 11th annual Global Health & Innovation Conference. (Powerpoint Slides) (PDF Version)

Presentation on March 26, 2014 at International Symposium on Vaccines in Nice, France: A Role for the Pineal Gland in Neurological Damage Following Aluminum-adjuvanted Vaccination (Powerpoint Slides) (PDF Version)

Presentation on March 16, 2014 at Physicians' Roundtable Conference in Tampa, FL. (Powerpoint Slides) (PDF Version)

Presentation on Oct 16, 2013 hosted by the Wellesley chapter of the League of Women Voters. Video. Slides.

326 page document by Sayer Ji - many references to the literature on why not to vaccinate. Click Here

Nancy Swanson, Andre Leu, Jon Abrahamson and Bradley Wallet. Genetically engineered crops, glyphosate and the deterioration of health in the United States of America. Journal of Organic Systems, 9(2), 2014. Click Here

Compilation (by Rosemary Mason MB ChB FRCA) of data worldwide on effects of glyphosate on human health. Click Here

Former Monsanto employee put in charge of GMO papers at journal Click Here
Scientific journal withdraws Seralini paper on Roundup toxicity Click Here

Autism Rates and Glyphosate Application Rates to Corn and Soy in the U.S. as A Function of Time. Click Here

Slides Presented to MIT Faculty at CSAIL Offsite Meeting on May 17, 2013, on autism and glyphosate. (Powerpoint Slides) (PDF Version)

 

[backhoeboogie]

I am not scientist so it would be difficult to discuss this.

Go to a baseball game. Grandkids get eat up by mosquitoes. No one has spray so you go get yours out of the truck. Spray your grandkids shirts. Take their hats to the side and spray them. Parents ask to borrow your spray. You hand it to them. They then go nuts telling you how harmful it is and that you should buy "all natural". Their lecture goes on for 10 minutes and you hear about all these kids going in to reaction from using buy spray.

I have been using that same stuff since I was a kid. Never seen anyone get sick from using it. I'm not a scientist either.

Their kids will likely catch malaria.

Is Roundup really good to keep mosquitoes off of the kids. Anyone else every tried it.

People are scared to death of everything. They even insist on water in bottles and refuse to drink well water.

 

[Jogeephus]

, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) sets maximum legal residue levels for every pesticide, for dozens of crops. But a new study in the respected journal Toxicology has shown that, at low levels that are currently legal on our food, Roundup weed killer could cause DNA damage, endocrine disruption and cell death. The study, conducted by French researchers, shows glyphosate-based herbicides are toxic to human reproductive cells.

The potential real-life risks from this are infertility, low sperm count, and prostate or testicular cancer. But, “Symptoms could be so subtle, they would be easy to overlook,” says Theo Colborn, president of The Endocrine Disruption Exchange. “Timing is of critical importance. If a pregnant woman were to be exposed early in gestation, it looks like these herbicides could have an effect during the sexual differentiation stage. They really lock in on testosterone.” The bottom line is more research is needed before we can fully understand the effects of glyphosate exposure.
A Perfect Poison

The researchers’ most disturbing findings were not only the cytotoxic and hormonal responses to low-dose exposures, but the fact that the “active” ingredient — glyphosate — had much less of a toxic impact alone than the branded chemical mixtures sold to homeowners and farmers nationwide.

Solvents and surfactants, legally considered “inert ingredients,” are mixed with glyphosate in products such as Roundup weed killer to create chemical formulations that increase mobility and more direct access to the cells. “Those same factors that aid penetration into a plant, also aid penetration into the skin,” says Vincent Garry, professor emeritus of pathology at the University of Minnesota. “These chemicals are designed to kill cells.”

Despite being termed “inert,” these added (and usually secret) ingredients are anything but benign, as the manufacturers have claimed for decades. The new French research found the surfactants not only amplify the effects of glyphosate, but glyphosate also amplifies the effects of the surfactants. Basically, one plus one equals something larger than two.

Herbicide manufacturers are subject to fewer rules in the testing of inert ingredients than they are for active ingredients, explains Caroline Cox, research director at the Center for Environmental Health in Oakland, Calif. “The tests the EPA requires for inert ingredients cover only a small range of potential health problems,” Cox says. “Testing for birth defects, cancer, and genetic damage are required only on the active ingredients. But we’re exposed to both.”

Hate to tell her but Cox stands a better chance of getting increased funding for her research if she added something about Global Warming. Maybe something like, the effect global warming has on inert ingredients.

 

[john250]

I am not scientist so it would be difficult to discuss this.

Go to a baseball game. Grandkids get eat up by mosquitoes. No one has spray so you go get yours out of the truck. Spray your grandkids shirts. Take their hats to the side and spray them. Parents ask to borrow your spray. You hand it to them. They then go nuts telling you how harmful it is and that you should buy "all natural". Their lecture goes on for 10 minutes and you hear about all these kids going in to reaction from using buy spray.

I have been using that same stuff since I was a kid. Never seen anyone get sick from using it. I'm not a scientist either.

Their kids will likely catch malaria.

Is Roundup really good to keep mosquitoes off of the kids. Anyone else every tried it.

Works well if the kids are GMO.