Angus vs Simmental in Tennessee

[Square_Dancer]

Hey everyone,

Long time reader, first time poster.

I was just curious and thought I'd ask, as the title says, Angus or Simmental in Tennessee. Which does better in the state in terms of health, longevity, climate adaptability, and financially. I know it's going to differ based on geography as well as size of operation one would be running (e.g. 30 head vs 300 head). But I just wanted to get a general overall idea of maybe the Angus and Simmental "scene" there. Just thought I'd ask!

 

[sstterry]

op:

 

[sim.-ang.king]

Neither, crossbred is da way.
Crossbred cows, purebred bulls, and calves that will make you more money than you can fit in your wallet.

 

[A.J.]

:welcome: Both can do equally well here in all the above you mentioned. As far as registered operations, there are more Angus than Simmental, but starting to see more and more Simangus around. If you were going the commercial route, like sim-ang king said, a crossbred operation between the two could be a good way to go. My last two bulls have been Simangus, and I’ve been happy with the calves out of my crossbred cows. My last bull wasn’t homo black, so I got a few reds. I got a homo black bull this time.

 

[sstterry]

Neither, crossbred is da way.
Crossbred cows, purebred bulls, and calves that will make you more money than you can fit in your wallet.

I am moving to Illinois!!!

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Neither, crossbred is da way.
Crossbred cows, purebred bulls, and calves that will make you more money than you can fit in your wallet.

I am moving to Illinois!!!

You’ll love it!

 

[sstterry]

Neither, crossbred is da way.
Crossbred cows, purebred bulls, and calves that will make you more money than you can fit in your wallet.

I am moving to Illinois!!!

You’ll love it!

You just want to get rid of me......

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

I am moving to Illinois!!!

You’ll love it!

You just want to get rid of me......

Your words not mine.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Actually I would miss you.

 

[BFE]

Neither, crossbred is da way.
Crossbred cows, purebred bulls, and calves that will make you more money than you can fit in your wallet.

I am moving to Illinois!!!

You’ll love it!

Most corrupt state in the union, no, one loves being in Illinois. I wish Indiana or Kentucky would annex my part of the state.

As to the original question, most importantly, purchase stock that are raised in a similar management style to yours. Some seedstock producers push hard for gains and fat cattle, and those cattle may or may not be able to take it when put out on a real world diet.

 

[sim.-ang.king]

Neither, crossbred is da way.
Crossbred cows, purebred bulls, and calves that will make you more money than you can fit in your wallet.

I am moving to Illinois!!!

If you do that money won't last long.

 

[sstterry]

Actually I would miss you.

Awww...thanks! I wouldn't leave CT. Just move to IL to become a fatcat cattleman!

 

[BFE]

Neither, crossbred is da way.
Crossbred cows, purebred bulls, and calves that will make you more money than you can fit in your wallet.

I am moving to Illinois!!!

If you do that money won't last long.

Ain't that the sad truth.

 

[BFE]

Actually I would miss you.

Awww...thanks! I wouldn't leave CT. Just move to IL to become a fatcat cattleman!

Lots of fatcats in Illinois, but they're mostly crooked politicians. They're mostly into pork projects.

 

[RockinRB]

Angus x fleckvieh would make a dandy cross

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Angus x fleckvieh would make a dandy cross

I concur. Fleck bull over Angus cows or the reverse? I’m thinking Angus cows because they would be easier to source.

 

[A.J.]

Angus x fleckvieh would make a dandy cross

They would be some great growing calves and good momma cows. One concern I would have here is the extra chrome you might get if selling at the sale barn. I’ve got an old Simangus cow I raised out of a brown and white Simmental. She raises a great calf every year, but if her calves have much chrome on the side or underneath they got docked pretty good. Some years she will have an almost solid black calf, and some years like this year she will throw one with tons of chrome.

 

[ccr]

Angus x fleckvieh would make a dandy cross

They would be some great growing calves and good momma cows. One concern I would have here is the extra chrome you might get if selling at the sale barn. I’ve got an old Simangus cow I raised out of a brown and white Simmental. She raises a great calf every year, but if her calves have much chrome on the side or underneath they got docked pretty good. Some years she will have an almost solid black calf, and some years like this year she will throw one with tons of chrome.

A.J., what's the justification of being docked just cause they have some white on them. Is the white an indication to a feeder or packer that the calf wont be as good as a solid color, if so, what does it indicate?

 

[sstterry]

Angus x fleckvieh would make a dandy cross

They would be some great growing calves and good momma cows. One concern I would have here is the extra chrome you might get if selling at the sale barn. I’ve got an old Simangus cow I raised out of a brown and white Simmental. She raises a great calf every year, but if her calves have much chrome on the side or underneath they got docked pretty good. Some years she will have an almost solid black calf, and some years like this year she will throw one with tons of chrome.

A.J., what's the justification of being docked just cause they have some white on them. Is the white an indication to a feeder or packer that the calf wont be as good as a solid color, if so, what does it indicate?

The whole certified Angus bs.....

 

[southernultrablack]

Gelbvieh/Angus cross works well. Good moderate mommas with growth.