Angus Temprament??

[randiliana]

Been following this thread for a while on Homesteading Today. Interesting, the opinions of these people.

Don't get too upset with me :secret: , I've had a lot of Angus cattle around here, some good, some not so good and some down right nasty. Kinda like a lot of other breeds....

http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/showth ... ost4206579

 

[wtrapp]

I have both registered Angus and Registered Hereford cattle. Never had a problem with my Angus. Seems the Herefords are very calm and nothing is prettier than a Hereford calf. There is good and bad in everything.

 

[aussie_cowgirl]

Angus have some really varied temperaments. I've been bailed up by a few but then some of the quieter animals I've had have been angus (A while ago I think I posted a picture of me riding an angus steer, and my friend riding a young red angus bull). Compared to say the Maines I've had, they were flightier, more highly stung etc but not ridiculously so. I wouldn't say they're as bad as some of the euros and bos indicus I've had though.

 

[AngusLimoX]

Angus have some really varied temperaments.

I think this theme will repeat itself over and over as this thread progresses.
I don't give Angus any more credit for disposition than the limos I've owned.
Entirely manageable, but not what I would describe as quiet.

 

[aussie_cowgirl]

Angus have some really varied temperaments.

I think this theme will repeat itself over and over as this thread progresses.
I don't give Angus any more credit for disposition than the limos I've owned.
Entirely manageable, but not what I would describe as quiet.

Yeah, I feel dumb saying it because it's varied in every breed. But like you say, manageable but not quiet.


On a side note I always find Herefords a pain. They're quiet to the point of being lazy and annoying to handle. When even a cattle prod won't push them up that's when a quiet temperament is a negative. They need a little bit of a spark to handle easily and efficiently. IMO of course.

 

[dun]

On a side note I always find Herefords a pain. They're quiet to the point of being lazy and annoying to handle. When even a cattle prod won't push them up that's when a quiet temperament is a negative. They need a little bit of a spark to handle easily and efficiently. IMO of course.

Zero flight zone has always been my problem with Herefords too.

 

[angus9259]

Yup - I have them both out here - some so docile I can't get them into the chute with a bulldozer and some on the cull list for the way they look at gates . . .

I must agree however . . . . NOTHING cuter than a Hereford calf.

 

[Angus Cowman]

Yup - I have them both out here - some so docile I can't get them into the chute with a bulldozer and some on the cull list for the way they look at gates . . .

I must agree however . . . . NOTHING cuter than a Hereford calf.

I must disagree I think there is nothing cuter than a black baldy calf :nod: :nod:

 

[aussie_cowgirl]

Personally I think Brahman calves are cuter... those ears...

 

[KNERSIE]

Yup - I have them both out here - some so docile I can't get them into the chute with a bulldozer and some on the cull list for the way they look at gates . . .

I must agree however . . . . NOTHING cuter than a Hereford calf.

I must disagree I think there is nothing cuter than a black baldy calf :nod: :nod:

So what you're saying is that a angus cow need a hereford bull to be able to have a cute calf? ;-) :lol2:

I can't say that the angus I've been around are any worse than the average beef breed, more flightly than herefords, but not more than other breeds. Better than the simmentals we get here.

The nastiest cow I've ever come across was a hereford cow, the first time I've seen a cow run 50 yards to try and run you down (and succeed)

 

[VLS_GUY]

The meanest cow I ever owned hands down was a 800 LB Jersey. She was the smallest cow on the place but called the shots on cows over twice her size. A rather flighty cow that made the hind leg kick into a art form. Due to her dominance in a herd when she took off the rest of the milk cows generally took off for town with her. No Angus or other cow including Chianinias ever compared to the antics of this animal. After a couple of years I finally got her tamed down enough so she wouldn't kick or run off when i needed to work with her-so persistence paid off. But I have the free form milk buckets to show the effort.
The cutest calves-Tarentaise by a mile. They look like a calf designed by Walt Disney: http://www.ankenmanranch.com/calves.htm

 

[Angus Cowman]

Yup - I have them both out here - some so docile I can't get them into the chute with a bulldozer and some on the cull list for the way they look at gates . . .

I must agree however . . . . NOTHING cuter than a Hereford calf.

I must disagree I think there is nothing cuter than a black baldy calf :nod: :nod:

So what you're saying is that a angus cow need a hereford bull to be able to have a cute calf? ;-) :lol2:

)

I was thinking more along the lines of a bald face Simmangus Bull :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

Agreed Angus are worse than Herefords (and agree Herefords can be toooo quiet).
But, the absolutely wose cow we ever dealt with was a PB Angus cow. She used to "stalk" us everytime we went out in the field to check newborns. When we finally decided to ship her, we had a worker that was a "runner". He went out into the field, got her attention, she chased him into the barn, into the cattle trailer, and he slipped out the open "people" door. We had several people with guns - just in case.
But, she could have been any breed. Every breed has their nut cases.

 

[randiliana]

But, the absolutely wose cow we ever dealt with was a PB Angus cow. She used to "stalk" us everytime we went out in the field to check newborns.

Worst we ever had was a PB Angus cow too. She never got near the newborn pasture though. She'd stalk you for 2 weeks before she calved. And after, well, even at weaning you had to keep your eye on her. Down right deadly. That was the 1 and only calf she had on our place, found herself in the slaughter house that fall.

 

[robert]

temperament is one of the easiest traits to select for, cull the nutcases, nervous and aggressive, but too many folks like to make excuses for them like 'oh, she's only like that for a week or two around calving' or 'she might be a bit nutty but she always raises the biggest calf' and so on. Big deal, she might kill you, or your kids, or some neighbour who calls by at the wrong time, but she raises a big calf, question, even at high market prices, how many medical bills will that 'big' calf pay??

You know, it's kinda funny how Angus have a bad reputation for temperament, back in Scotland it is the Limmy's, Simmy's, Galloways and Charolais that are bad tempered, the Angus are considered the most docile. Every breed has its problems, temperament is easily cured, but that's entirely down to the breeder. Great thing about genetics, you get what you select for.

 

[alacattleman]

seems like the angus bulls ive had,,, had rather fight then breed... sorta like the calf will try and knock others away from feed not getting none their self,, but fighting to keep the others from it. :cowboy:

 

[showing71]

I've never had any problems with our Angus, and we even have some EXT bloodlines. Actually, ours are on the path of being like Herefords. But, the meanest cow we have is a PB Tarentaise cow. We have to use 2 tractors to go out and get the calf. But it's hard to cull her when her bull calves (and she has had one every year) sell so well, and it seems her disposition doesn't pass onto her offspring.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

I've never had any problems with our Angus, and we even have some EXT bloodlines. Actually, ours are on the path of being like Herefords. But, the meanest cow we have is a PB Tarentaise cow. We have to use 2 tractors to go out and get the calf. But it's hard to cull her when her bull calves (and she has had one every year) sell so well, and it seems her disposition doesn't pass onto her offspring.

Hey, Robert - just what you were talking about.

 

[showing71]

I've never had any problems with our Angus, and we even have some EXT bloodlines. Actually, ours are on the path of being like Herefords. But, the meanest cow we have is a PB Tarentaise cow. We have to use 2 tractors to go out and get the calf. But it's hard to cull her when her bull calves (and she has had one every year) sell so well, and it seems her disposition doesn't pass onto her offspring.

Hey, Robert - just what you were talking about.

She's the only one we have like that, and she only acts that way for the first 24-36 hours and then is fine for the rest of the year. And a $5000 bull is worth it.

 

[KNERSIE]

In my experience temperament is as much aquired from the dam's disposition while the calf was suckling as it is genetic. Try and halterbrake a few "dandies" from a hot tempered cow and you'll soon get my drift.