Angus guys

[Till-Hill]

Need help finding perfect PROVEN bull with milking daughters. Don't need homerun calving ease just don't want to pull them all.
Mating Bismarck x Kaboom x 004 heifers. Doc needs help, less milk. And marketable seedstock is the goal.
Will also use on some commercial heifers for resale.

 

[LCBulls]

MGR Treasure would probably fit with what your looking for.
He’s still a younger bull though

 

[CattleMan1920]

Hoover Dam is an excellent choice for what you described above. I also like Connealy Capitalist and Connealy Comrade. If you don’t mind to spend more on the semen, then Baldridge Colonel produces very nice daughters, I have several and can attest to it, also SAV President will produce excellent progeny, I like President because I feel that he will produce top notch foot quality. The last two bulls are not as proven as Hoover Dam or the Connealy bulls, but I don’t think you would go wrong with any that I mentioned here.

 

[Son of Butch]

Need help finding perfect PROVEN bull with milking daughters.
Don't need home run calving ease just don't want to pull them all.
Mating Bismarck x Kaboom x 004 heifers. Doc needs help, less milk. And marketable seedstock is the goal.

Perfection is what you seek... piece of cake... lol... (Devil's Food Cake that is)
Here are a few for your consideration:

WMR Infinity reg 17083470 (Timeless x Packer) $25 at Bull Barn
ced 13 bw .8 acc .92 sc 1.43 doc 21 milk 20 cem 17 $EN -11 $W 73 $B139

Mill Bar Hickok reg 17351674 (ABS $26) Consensus 7229 x Final Answer
ced 15
bw 0 acc .93
sc .85
doc 33
cem 10
milk 26
$EN -16
$W 70
$B 148

SydGen Fate reg 17521423 (Origen $24) SydGen Trust x SydGen Contact
ced 10 bw 1 acc .91 sc 2.05 doc 23 milk 26 cem 11 $EN -16 $W 57 $B195

Hoover Elation reg 17603620 (Select Sires $22) Basin Excitement x SydGen CC&7
ced 16 bw -1.9 acc .89 sc 1.00 doc 29 milk 26 cem 11 $EN -9 $W 54 $B117

GAR Sure Fire reg 17328461 (Select Sires $25 sexed semen $50) Connealy In Sure x GAR 5050
ced 15 bw -.4 acc .95 sc 2.44 doc 30 milk 29 cem 12 $EN -13 $W 63 $B153

That should give you a few to ponder... I eliminated GAR Prophet due to milk 32.
I kind of think Hickok might be what you're looking for, if milk 26 is acceptable to you.

 

[torogmc81]

Out of SOB list, i'd choose Sure Fire because he definitely covers the marketable side for "SURE", and obviously checks all your boxes too.

 

[NEFarmwife]

We are breeding to Hickok this spring.

Have a Sydgen Fate grandson that we love that we’ll be collecting on and AIing our commercials to. He’s good numbered and quite the looker. I think Fate is above as proven as you get.

 

[Hogtiming]

I would choose my mating with Hoover elation closely. He has a toe curl issue. I would breed for a Bull with some power to cross with the Bismarck and 004 females. That’s just me. Resource on the Bismarck’s and renoun on the 004. Both should make elite females.

 

[Till-Hill]

Out of SOB list, i'd choose Sure Fire because he definitely covers the marketable side for "SURE", and obviously checks all your boxes too.

I'm not sure I will use any GAR bulls. Most of them are not very fun to look at. Besides growth that's the test most bulls have to pass to get sold is they got to catch a guys eye.


Treasure seems to have some frame which is a good thing. I got a pair of 2 year old ET brothers to the Angus heifers. They are plenty moderate sized. I don't want anything under 5.5 frame either.

Elation or Hickok going to add any frame?

 

[CattleMan1920]

You could go with SAV Governor from Herbster Angus. He is a calving ease option with excellent genetics backing him up.

 

[CattleMan1920]

SAV Governor, his AAA # is 18578961.

This photo is from the Herbster Angus site.

http://www.herbsterangus.com/copy-of-president

 

[Till-Hill]

You could go with SAV Governor from Herbster Angus. He is a calving ease option with excellent genetics backing him up.

Charlo side isn't going to help stature at all and double shot then if I used him of 004, that could be a recipe for making some bucking stock?!

 

[CattleMan1920]

Then how about my original suggestion, Hoover Dam, I’ve never had a bad experience with him.

 

[Till-Hill]

Then how about my original suggestion, Hoover Dam, I’ve never had a bad experience with him.

He is on the short list, always have liked them cattle. Kind of a no huge holes kind of bull.

 

[Chocolate Cow2]

http://horsebutteranch.com/cow.asp?Id=33

 

[Katpau]

I was really happy with my S Chisum 6175 sons and daughters and have been considering using his sons S Whitlock 179 at Genex or S Chisum 255 at Select Sires.

 

[jscunn]

Till Hill,
So what is your short list?

 

[Till-Hill]

Short list so far that I had time to look at today.
Treasure
Hickox
Hoover dam
I do have Capitalist on hand...
Forgot about Chisum, I got some 75% sexed semen left. Hmmm lots of time yet

 

[Son of Butch]

I don't want anything under 5.5 frame either.
Elation or Hickok going to add any frame?

Hoover Dam mh bottom 25%
Hoover Elation mh bottom 25%

Mill Bar Hickok mh .2 about breed average at 55% (16 traits in top 35%) doc 33 top 1% hp top 10% $B top 20%
ced 15 top 4% bw 0 top 25%

SydGen Fate frame score 6.4 mh .7 top 10% (22 traits in top 35%) including sc top 2% hp top 20% and $B top 1%
ced 10 top 25% bw 1 top 45% doc 23 top 20%

Both Fate and Hickok can be obtained from your local ABS rep.

 

[Son of Butch]

http://horsebutteranch.com/cow.asp?Id=33

Till Hill says he wants less milk and bottom 5% milk certainly qualifies him there, but $W bottom 5% and bottom 5% $B
will hurt seed stock marketability.

 

[gizmom]

Some excellent suggestions, I am a huge fan of Resource his daughters are just good and he will improve both feet and disposition.

Gizmom