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Here is a heifer born August 15, 2005. Her Mom is a commercial cow around 16 years old and keeps spitting out the calves. Her Dad is a commercial bull also. I really like her and I like the fact that her Mom has always bred back. She is really wide and almost has the appearance of a bull calf. I am thinking about keeping her for a replacement heifer.
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Chuckie":12e1af3u said:
Here is a heifer born August 15, 2005. She is really wide and almost has the appearance of a bull calf.
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You're right Chuckie. She does have the appearance of a bull calf.

Question I have for you is why would you want to keep a heifer that looks like a bull. Most would want to keep a feminine looking heifer.
 
I have two in the pasture now that are bully looking, everyone has always said that, not feminine enough. Well I don't know about everyone else bulls, but, mine don't ever walk up to one and say, "Nope, not going to breed you, not feminine looking enough." My bulls don't even look at that end. As for calving, one calved at 21 months, the other at 22 1/2 months. After that they have calved every 10 to 11 months. Some of the best breeders in the herd.

If you like her and like the way her mom has produced then keep her.
 
she does have a bull head on her.but that wouldnt stop me from keeping her.an making her a cow. i think she will make a fine cow.scott
 
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My only concern with the shorter wider head would be if you breed her to a bull with a wide/big head she may have a wide-headed calf that slows down the calving process.

We have two 8 year old cows, half sisters one is very feminine (tag 17) the other (tag 37) looked exactly like your calf at the same age. 17 seems to calve more easily that 37 because her calves all have a more stream-lined head - 37's calves all have her blocky face - we only had to help her once, her second calf was a huge bull calf with a very large square head that wasn't laying right because his front legs weren't stretched out as far as they should have been. One easy pull to straighten the legs and she took care of the rest but that bigger head did make some difference.
Just a thought when you breed her...
 
at that age you cant really tell for sure how she will look when shes grown. she may grow into that head just fine. or she may be a black charolais. lol.
 
She was the tiniest calf that we ever had born. She looked like a stuffed animal compared to the other calves. We did not weigh her, but if she weighed 50 lbs, I would have been shocked! But she is now taking off. Her head is very small and short. She may turn out to be the ugliest cow in Tennessee. But right now I like her. This commercial bulls seems to put more muscle on his calves. There are a couple other heifers that he sired that carry more muscle. Here again is the little heifer along with two other heifers from the same bull. I only got "butt" shots of these two. It was so dark yesterday, that I had to lighten the picture so that the calves could be seen in the photo.
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I'd give her a chance...we had a Baldy heifer a few years ago that looked like a finished steer...never settled but made a hit in the production line-up...hung at 758#
 
From the appearance of the cattle in your pictures, Chuckie, you have the EPD's and the Phenotype that justifies your keeping that calf. She would have to grow to be pretty 'bullish' before I would not use her in the herd. One of the most negative traits in the Angus Breed, IMO, is that the Females are loosing the 'beefy' appearance that other Breeds are propounding! I want a Momma Beef Cow to 'look' like a Beef Cow, not a 'Funnel Butt' milk cow. The cows you have in that pasture have the Phenotype of Beef Cows - and so does that calf. Go for It, Baby! :lol: :nod:

DOC HARRIS
 
DOC HARRIS":3mlwd78w said:
From the appearance of the cattle in your pictures, Chuckie, you have the EPD's and the Phenotype that justifies your keeping that calf. She would have to grow to be pretty 'bullish' before I would not use her in the herd. One of the most negative traits in the Angus Breed, IMO, is that the Females are loosing the 'beefy' appearance that other Breeds are propounding! I want a Momma Beef Cow to 'look' like a Beef Cow, not a 'Funnel Butt' milk cow. The cows you have in that pasture have the Phenotype of Beef Cows - and so does that calf. Go for It, Baby! :lol: :nod:

DOC HARRIS
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Doc
That hfr in chuckies herd that we are commenting on is a commercial hfr from a commercial cow and a commercial bull, from what he has said on his first post about her. She has no EPD's. Pretty good heifer huh.
 
la4angus":1zoszk3v said:
DOC HARRIS":1zoszk3v said:
From the appearance of the cattle in your pictures, Chuckie, you have the EPD's and the Phenotype that justifies your keeping that calf. She would have to grow to be pretty 'bullish' before I would not use her in the herd. One of the most negative traits in the Angus Breed, IMO, is that the Females are loosing the 'beefy' appearance that other Breeds are propounding! I want a Momma Beef Cow to 'look' like a Beef Cow, not a 'Funnel Butt' milk cow. The cows you have in that pasture have the Phenotype of Beef Cows - and so does that calf. Go for It, Baby! :lol: :nod:

DOC HARRIS
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Doc
That hfr in chuckies herd that we are commenting on is a commercial hfr from a commercial cow and a commercial bull, from what he has said on his first post about her. She has no EPD's. Pretty good heifer huh.
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She's got EPD's. It's just that nobody knows what they are!! It has to be sort of an educated guess, - I guess!


DOC
 
does that heifer have anything besides angus in her that you know of? we had a limang bull one time whose calves had big heads just like that. also ive seen some simmental angus cross calves with similar heads. her ear hair also reminds me of a limxang.

(pardon my ignorance if her breed composition has been stated already.)
 
Beefy, the calf is all Angus. Mom and Dad both. Her head is very short and I think it makes her forehead look wider than it appears. In the picture of the "White Angus," that is her standing in front of the other heifers. We are going to keep her and hopefully she will turn out OK. I will take another picture of her when she is weaned. Then we can compare the pictures and see how much she stayed the same or changed.

Doc Harris, every time I look at a cow with a pointy butt, the first thing that I think about the "Funnel Butt." See what you got started!
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la4angus, the reason I want to keep her is the exact reason that Doc Harris said. I want some meat on those bones.
 
Doc got it right, Commercial or Registered, give me a "bullish" head with the muscling before a "feminine" head and a "funnel butt" any day of the year.......and my opinion only, more appealing to me.......
 

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