Angus Beef Lawsuit

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Cub Foods Angus beef subject of mislabeling suit
Minneapolis / St. Paul Business Journal - 1:58 PM CST Friday, February 23, 2007by Carissa WyantStaff Writer

Cub Foods and its parent company, Supervalu Inc., are accused of fraudulently mislabeling beef and selling it at a higher price, according to media reports.

A lawsuit seeking class-action status was filed Thursday in Anoka County district court. Plaintiffs Michael Olson, of Ham Lake, and John Wylde, of Coon Rapids, say Cub Foods has systematically mislabeled regular USDA choice beef as costlier Black Angus for the past six years, news services reported.


The company issued a statement Friday afternoon, saying, "We just received the class action suit, so we have no basis yet from which to respond. What we can say is we absolutely stand behind the integrity of our products".

Eden Prarie-based Supervalu ( NYSE: SVU) became third-largest supermarket chain in the country after it purchased Albertson's last year.

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:) "costlier Black Angus". I guess it's not all hype: Angus beef is more valuable than commodity beef! :lol:
 
I have a similar problem with our local grocery stores. In their newspaper ads and on their in store point of sale ads, they advertise "certified angus" but on the meat packaging the label says "certified beef". When I ask the meat dept. or a manager about this, I usally get a blank stare. This post is not a knock on angus, it's a knock on the grocery's that practice false advertising.

Alan
 
Let it get settled in court, it makes a person wonder how the proposed COOL will work if CAB can't be controlled? Who is bringing the class action suit on? I wonder what the out come will be?
 
Frankie":21kkluxd said:
:) "costlier Black Angus". I guess it's not all hype: Angus beef is more valuable than commodity beef! :lol:

From what I've read, CAB is $.50 per lb costlier on average than all other beef (except Prime and Kobe) at food service and retail establishments.

Realistically though, if that is based against the lesser quality grades the price difference based on quality standards is quite miniscule.

In light of the fact that there was only 17,000 head plus a few hundred finished at CAB Licensed Feedlots, it's just a drop in the bucket of total U.S. beef production.

Use the DNA testing like the UK does and these types of lawsuits will be eliminated and Angus beef will retain their good name.

If people bought what they thought was angus beef and it turned out to be an average beef eating experience, it does not help the angus cause.
 
MikeC":1d9h53d1 said:
Frankie":1d9h53d1 said:
:) "costlier Black Angus". I guess it's not all hype: Angus beef is more valuable than commodity beef! :lol:

From what I've read, CAB is $.50 per lb costlier on average than all other beef (except Prime and Kobe) at food service and retail establishments.

Realistically though, if that is based against the lesser quality grades the price difference based on quality standards is quite miniscule.

In light of the fact that there was only 17,000 head plus a few hundred finished at CAB Licensed Feedlots, it's just a drop in the bucket of total U.S. beef production.

Use the DNA testing like the UK does and these types of lawsuits will be eliminated and Angus beef will retain their good name.

If people bought what they thought was angus beef and it turned out to be an average beef eating experience, it does not help the angus cause.

Guess it's all in "the eye (or mouth and stomach) of the beholder!"

Some people like a highly marbled type of beef regardless of the brand (breed) name. Same reason some people prefer the highly marbled (fatty IMO) ribeye steaks and/or less than well done steaks, to the leaner other cuts.

Everone's taste buds are a little different...eat what you like and enjoy! ;-)
 
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skcatlman":10m79cpx said:
Let it get settled in court, it makes a person wonder how the proposed COOL will work if CAB can't be controlled? Who is bringing the class action suit on? I wonder what the out come will be?

Plaintiffs Michael Olson, of Ham Lake, and John Wylde, of Coon Rapids
 
MikeC":3kvr7rwg said:
Frankie":3kvr7rwg said:
:) "costlier Black Angus". I guess it's not all hype: Angus beef is more valuable than commodity beef! :lol:

From what I've read, CAB is $.50 per lb costlier on average than all other beef (except Prime and Kobe) at food service and retail establishments.

Realistically though, if that is based against the lesser quality grades the price difference based on quality standards is quite miniscule.

In light of the fact that there was only 17,000 head plus a few hundred finished at CAB Licensed Feedlots, it's just a drop in the bucket of total U.S. beef production.

Use the DNA testing like the UK does and these types of lawsuits will be eliminated and Angus beef will retain their good name.

If people bought what they thought was angus beef and it turned out to be an average beef eating experience, it does not help the angus cause.
They were not labeling them as CAB according to your post but Black Angus. So it has nothing to do with CAB. How would DNA testing help in this case? If the store is changing the labeling after it has reached the store all of the DNA testing in the world isn't going to stop that.
 
Just goes to show ya how screwed up some people are. Probably the first good eating experience either one has had, being one is from "Ham" Lake and the other is from "Coon" Rapids. :D Just shows the quality of angus beef, when you can take any ol' piece of meat and pass it off as angus.
 
Tod Dague":ecejujdo said:
MikeC":ecejujdo said:
Frankie":ecejujdo said:
:) "costlier Black Angus". I guess it's not all hype: Angus beef is more valuable than commodity beef! :lol:

From what I've read, CAB is $.50 per lb costlier on average than all other beef (except Prime and Kobe) at food service and retail establishments.

Realistically though, if that is based against the lesser quality grades the price difference based on quality standards is quite miniscule.

In light of the fact that there was only 17,000 head plus a few hundred finished at CAB Licensed Feedlots, it's just a drop in the bucket of total U.S. beef production.

Use the DNA testing like the UK does and these types of lawsuits will be eliminated and Angus beef will retain their good name.

If people bought what they thought was angus beef and it turned out to be an average beef eating experience, it does not help the angus cause.
They were not labeling them as CAB according to your post but Black Angus. So it has nothing to do with CAB. How would DNA testing help in this case? If the store is changing the labeling after it has reached the store all of the DNA testing in the world isn't going to stop that.

I didn't say they were labeling it CAB. I was just saying that CAB was higher selling than all other beef and it is the highest selling brand of the angus meat, is it not?

Just wondering how much more could they have added to regular choice and gotten for it retail and was the risk worth it.

The UK does random DNA tests at grocers to keep the grocer and the wholesale provider honest. If you were a grocer and thought someone might come in and test your beef, you might be hesitant to mislabel it. I know you would.
 
MikeC":38nob4n2 said:
Tod Dague":38nob4n2 said:
MikeC":38nob4n2 said:
Frankie":38nob4n2 said:
:) "costlier Black Angus". I guess it's not all hype: Angus beef is more valuable than commodity beef! :lol:

From what I've read, CAB is $.50 per lb costlier on average than all other beef (except Prime and Kobe) at food service and retail establishments.

Realistically though, if that is based against the lesser quality grades the price difference based on quality standards is quite miniscule.

In light of the fact that there was only 17,000 head plus a few hundred finished at CAB Licensed Feedlots, it's just a drop in the bucket of total U.S. beef production.

Use the DNA testing like the UK does and these types of lawsuits will be eliminated and Angus beef will retain their good name.

If people bought what they thought was angus beef and it turned out to be an average beef eating experience, it does not help the angus cause.
They were not labeling them as CAB according to your post but Black Angus. So it has nothing to do with CAB. How would DNA testing help in this case? If the store is changing the labeling after it has reached the store all of the DNA testing in the world isn't going to stop that.

I didn't say they were labeling it CAB. I was just saying that CAB was higher selling than all other beef and it is the highest selling brand of the angus meat, is it not?

Just wondering how much more could they have added to regular choice and gotten for it retail and was the risk worth it.

The UK does random DNA tests at grocers to keep the grocer and the wholesale provider honest. If you were a grocer and thought someone might come in and test your beef, you might be hesitant to mislabel it. I know you would.
Just making sure that nobody got the idea that this was a CAB thing and had nothing to do with CAB or the Angus Association.

You are right random testing at the grocer level would work.
 
This sort of goes back to the post Mike put on here about DNA testing the beef and saying it was not or showing % of Angus. I still say hog wash. Thousands of thousands of reg. Angus sires go out and services cows just like some other breeds. There is no way they can get an accurate DNA test unless they test the DNA of every bull. But no matter. I am rasing reg. Angus cattle not Certified Angus Beef. There is a difference. :idea:
 
Scotty":6d1gnbby said:
This sort of goes back to the post Mike put on here about DNA testing the beef and saying it was not or showing % of Angus. I still say hog wash. Thousands of thousands of reg. Angus sires go out and services cows just like some other breeds. There is no way they can get an accurate DNA test unless they test the DNA of every bull. But no matter. I am rasing reg. Angus cattle not Certified Angus Beef. There is a difference. :idea:

Scotty, They are not testing for certain bulls with this DNA test. :lol: :lol:
They are testing for specific markers that are contained only in angus cattle. They also have one that tests for Brahman influence. They are not doing "Parental" testing here. :lol:

You're a funny guy!
Yes, there is a difference.
 
So do they have any accuracy as to % of Angus influence. So many markers = so high or low % of Angus influence. I try hard to be funny. But in no way at this time. Just a serious conversation.
 
Glad to see this Class Action. Many retail types are riding the coat tails of Angus and it was bound to happen.

I believe you will see some money change hands on this one...and rightly so.
 
Scotty":3k9wnet3 said:
So do they have any accuracy as to % of Angus influence. So many markers = so high or low % of Angus influence. I try hard to be funny. But in no way at this time. Just a serious conversation.


Genetic test developed to crack down on fake Angus beef
Camillo Fracassini
SCIENTISTS have developed a DNA test for Aberdeen Angus beef to clamp down on the trade in counterfeit meat which is costing Scots farmers up to £30m a year.
Each year thousands of shoppers are being conned into buying fake Aberdeen Angus beef passed off as the genuine article by unscrupulous retailers.

Now the Aberdeen-Angus Cattle Society (AACS) and Eurofins, a food testing laboratory, have devised a test that can establish conclusively whether meat comes from genuine stock or other breeds.

The world-renowned meat — famous for its taste and texture — fetches up to £23 a kilogram, compared with £16 for sirloin steak. Sales of the meat in the UK are worth about £150m a year.

According to a recent investigation involving local trading standards officers, about 20% of the beef sold as Aberdeen Angus by butchers in England is not authentic.

The test, which costs about £100 and is based on the unique DNA pattern of Aberdeen Angus cattle, is expected to be used by council trading standards officers and retailers to stamp out fraud.

“This is a fool-proof test that will allow retailers to routinely check product authenticity to ensure consumer rights are protected,” said Ron McHattie, chief executive of the AACS. “As with any other premium product that commands a premium price, Aberdeen Angus has attracted unscrupulous individuals who are compromising the brand.

“This test is a powerful tool in the armoury of trading standards officers who, until now, have had to rely on paper trails and animal passports to verify the origin of meat. Hopefully, it will persuade people to put their house in order before the authorities take action.”

Dr Engelbert Precht, of Eurofins, who was involved in the development of the test, said there was evidence of widespread fraud. “We were supplied by trading standards officers with 43 samples of beef labelled Aberdeen Angus from supermarkets and butchers across England and found that eight of them were not Aberdeen Angus,” he said. “These shops were a mixture of butcher shops and supermarkets. The results of our test are very clear and in blind tests we are sure, beyond 99%, that we can detect non-Aberdeen Angus samples.”
The test, which has taken more than two years to develop, identifies subtle differences between patterns of genetic markers to identify whether meat is pure Aberdeen Angus, from an animal sired by an Aberdeen Angus bull, or another breed. It follows unsuccessful attempts by the AACS to register Aberdeen Angus as a trademark and to gain recognition of the meat’s “special character” through the European commission.

The meat is famous for its “marbling” — the blend of fat and lean meat which gives it its distinctive flavour and texture.

Nick Nairn, the celebrity chef, said he welcomed the attempt to safeguard the reputation of Scottish Aberdeen Angus beef. “I am a huge fan of native beef which spends more time on grass and less time inside — it has the marbling of fat running through it that keeps it succulent and keeps its taste to the last chew. Intensively reared meat tends to lose its flavour quite quickly in the mouth.

“If you asked me which steak I’d rather have — Aberdeen Angus or one from a continental breed — I would always go for the Angus.”

A spokeswoman for Quality Meat Scotland said “This is a good example of the red meat industry embracing new technology to protect its premium in a competitive market place.

“The technology is not only protecting premium brands it also protects consumers’ rights. People are prepared to pay more for Aberdeen Angus, and indeed the Scotch beef brand, because they expect it to be a better quality product.

“When there is a premium at stake some unscrupulous companies may be tempted to try and cash in by falsely labelling their beef. People paying a premium in order to get that product have the right to know that it is what it says on the label.”
 
Quality Cattle":3vskbhbn said:
I wonder if this type test would help some of us angus breeders with the diluted gene pools we have purchased.

Ultimate genetics is requiring paretage testing befor they will consider a bull to lease. Thats a small start but one that will help. But still, who is to say what % of beef with Angus genetics is cetifiable. Preaty soon I will be.
 
I will also say I am for the testing. Jsut who pays for it? Seams to me that it will get pricy real quick.
 
Scotty,

It is like other products...if a retailer is going to tout angus he must comply with truth in advertising.....he must know it is angus. It is his responsibility.

Having said that I hasten to add.. the consumer always pays the bill...one way or another.
 
It is like other products...if a retailer is going to tout angus he must comply with truth in advertising.....he must know it is angus. It is his responsibility.

What if he were selling CAB with the label attached that was 0% angus?

Should we hold his feet to the fire then?
 

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