Almost Got Me Again

[I luv herfrds]

That bull that almost took me on the 4-wheeler, just missed getting me again this morning.
Ran the herd into a stubble field near the corrals. That bull and our heifer bull were fighting in the pasture earlier; I made a wide circle around them. Did not even approach or try to push them. They followed the cows in.
Got all 3 bulls into the corral with some of the cows. Got them cut off with just 4 cows and a couple of calves.
Bulls went around the squeeze chute and I was pushing the cows out on foot. I was standing near the calf table when I caught some movement out of my right eye.
No I did not have my back to them.
Here he came with his head down and picking up the pace. I jumped around the calf table and climbed up the fence. Yelled at the hubby who was at the gate to shut the gate because he was now heading his way. He slammed the gate into the bulls head.
I got in the same pen with the hubby and told him that bull had better be in the trailer and headed to the sale yard Monday morning.
The other 2 bulls were still behind the squeeze chute.

 

[oscar p]

One way ticket to the weigh pen. Third time might be the death of you.

 

[Brandonm22]

If they have figured out that they are capable of taking out that four wheeler, sell the motorbike, and buy the best ranch horse you can afford in the budget......and there are plenty of $800 horses who wouldn't take that crap from a bovine.

 

[DOC HARRIS]

Just for the sake of discussion, let's say that he didn't kill you! Let's say - that he - uh - just permanently disabled you! Perhaps you could keep the Ranch records - after you spent several months or a year or so - recovering your health, meager as it might be!

Perhaps!

DOC HARRIS

 

[3waycross]

If they have figured out that they are capable of taking out that four wheeler, sell the motorbike, and buy the best ranch horse you can afford in the budget......and there are plenty of $800 horses who wouldn't take that crap from a bovine.

NOT TRUE A horse WILL NOT do you any more good than a 4 wheeler or anything else.

I have a friend who is lucky to be here today because he thought he could "cowboy" a 2 yr old 1500lb Angus "heifer" bull. The bull had got out in Jan and was in with the heifers so he saddles up and went out by himself to cut him out and put him back where he belonged.

He went OK for a ways, then sulled up and wouldn't leave the heifers. My buddy tried bumping him with the horse, and the bull turned right into the horse and turned him over on top of my friend. He then ground my buddy into the frozen earth and crushed his chest and fractured his skull.

This was a real good cow horse and my friend is one he[[ of a cowboy. Didn't do either one of them much good.

 

[Julian]

I got in the same pen with the hubby and told him that bull had better be in the trailer and headed to the sale yard Monday morning.

May the bull's eulogy be read by the kid at the drive-up window:
"Do you want fries with that?"

 

[Ryder]

If they have figured out that they are capable of taking out that four wheeler, sell the motorbike, and buy the best ranch horse you can afford in the budget......and there are plenty of $800 horses who wouldn't take that crap from a bovine.

NOT TRUE A horse WILL NOT do you any more good than a 4 wheeler or anything else.

I have a friend who is lucky to be here today because he thought he could "cowboy" a 2 yr old 1500lb Angus "heifer" bull. The bull had got out in Jan and was in with the heifers so he saddles up and went out by himself to cut him out and put him back where he belonged.

He went OK for a ways, then sulled up and wouldn't leave the heifers. My buddy tried bumping him with the horse, and the bull turned right into the horse and turned him over on top of my friend. He then ground my buddy into the frozen earth and crushed his chest and fractured his skull.

This was a real good cow horse and my friend is one he[[ of a cowboy. Didn't do either one of them much good.

Know one guy personally and know of another that got hurt when those machines turned over with them.
In both cases they laid there for hours before somebody discovered them. One of them was in a bed of ants. Cattle didn't have anything to do with either case.

Seems to me that you can get hurt with those machines or with a horse. Such are the vicissitudes of life.

 

[randiliana]

If they have figured out that they are capable of taking out that four wheeler, sell the motorbike, and buy the best ranch horse you can afford in the budget......and there are plenty of $800 horses who wouldn't take that crap from a bovine.

Don't know many horses that can 'take' a 2000 lb bull. I have one of those cow savvy horses that knows how to handle a cow, he'll knock them right off their feet if they get too ornery. But, I won't even suggest he do the same with a bull that is more than a yearling. About the only thing I know that can maybe handle a bull without the human being injured are a couple good cow dogs, or a farm truck with a good grill guard on the front of it.....

Glad you got safely out of the way ILH. And I am with you totally on this one. Actually, he probably would have been headed to the sale barn the FIRST time.

We had a bull here a # of years ago. Absolutely hated me. When we went and picked him out, he was fine, never offered a problem. When we got him home (yearling) he was a little uneasy, snotty enough that I stayed out of the pen with him. As a two year old he would start to paw the ground and blow snot every time he saw me. Never did anything to anyone else, but he would see me and start up. DH liked him, and never had a problem, but he still went to town that fall.

 

[alacattleman]

If they have figured out that they are capable of taking out that four wheeler, sell the motorbike, and buy the best ranch horse you can afford in the budget......and there are plenty of $800 horses who wouldn't take that crap from a bovine.

Don't know many horses that can 'take' a 2000 lb bull. I have one of those cow savvy horses that knows how to handle a cow, he'll knock them right off their feet if they get too ornery. But, I won't even suggest he do the same with a bull that is more than a yearling. About the only thing I know that can maybe handle a bull without the human being injured are a couple good cow dogs, or a farm truck with a good grill guard on the front of it.....

Glad you got safely out of the way ILH. And I am with you totally on this one. Actually, he probably would have been headed to the sale barn the FIRST time.

We had a bull here a # of years ago. Absolutely hated me. When we went and picked him out, he was fine, never offered a problem. When we got him home (yearling) he was a little uneasy, snotty enough that I stayed out of the pen with him. As a two year old he would start to paw the ground and blow snot every time he saw me. Never did anything to anyone else, but he would see me and start up. DH liked him, and never had a problem, but he still went to town that fall.

true that,, my last bull i tried to move with a colt we stood there looking at each other him pawing and me thinking...best go do something different :cowboy: chicken sht cowboy maybe but the bluff was too hard to call i got enough broke bones to show for my stupidity

 

[I luv herfrds]

I know Doc. Same thoughts went through my head.

Hubby had a horse punched out from under him by a neighbors bull. I have a nice 1/2 quarter 1/2 morgan gelding that is a cow savvy son of a gun. I think even this horse would not want to be in the same pen with this bull.

Randi if I didn't think that bugger would have flipped me I would have tried to get him in after that first time.

Told hubby to be packing his pistol when he goes to load him. One more threat and drop him, then call the butcher.

 

[Suzie Q]

Please stay safe.

I have never had an experience like that with a bull and never want to.

I had to go next door on my horse and cantered at their huge Charbray bull to get him away from the fence I was working on.

Sure I was cantering towards him, but I was all bluff. One sign from him and I would have turned tail and had us both out of there. He was a very fast horse.

Luckily a very quiet bull who just turned and went the other way.

 

[Brandonm22]

The horse doesn't guarantee ANYthing. You can still get hurt; but those atvs and 4 wheelers are accidents waiting to happen. The things are prone too flip at any time they are in operation and they are shorter than most cattle. A bull looks at one and what he sees is something similar to a smaller bovine challenging him. If that what he decides IS happening he is going to call that bluff. Two if he does charge, the first thing he strikes with his head is liable to be you. The horse is TALLER than almost all cattle and IF there is a collision it is the horse that takes the brunt of the damage not your face.

 

[40-4171]

You can put fear in any bull with a good pickup and heavy grill guard. I have seen it done on various occasions. They have no desire for a second go around. But that era is done.

 

[3waycross]

A good wrist rocket will do a pretty good job of educating a bull and not risk the damage of a grill guard.

I have seen a couple of bulls crippled with a pickup.

 

[AngusLimoX]

Seems to me that you can get hurt with those machines or with a horse. Such are the vicissitudes of life.

I am freakin impressed!

Definition of Vicissitudes
Definition from Merriam-Webster's Dictionary (with permission - see references).
Main Entry: vi·cis·si·tude
Pronunciation: v&-'si-s&-"tüd, vI-, -"tyüd
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, from Latin vicissitudo, from vicissim in turn, from vicis change, alternation -- more at WEEK
Date: circa 1576
1 a : the quality or state of being changeable : MUTABILITY b : natural change or mutation visible in nature or in human affairs
2 a : a favorable or unfavorable event or situation that occurs by chance : a fluctuation of state or condition <the vicissitudes of daily life> b : a difficulty or hardship attendant on a way of life, a career, or a course of action and usually beyond one's control c : alternating change : SUCCESSION

 

[Ryder]

Seems to me that you can get hurt with those machines or with a horse. Such are the vicissitudes of life.

I am freakin impressed!

Definition of Vicissitudes
Definition from Merriam-Webster's Dictionary (with permission - see references).
Main Entry: vi·cis·si·tude
Pronunciation: v&-'si-s&-"tüd, vI-, -"tyüd
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, from Latin vicissitudo, from vicissim in turn, from vicis change, alternation -- more at WEEK
Date: circa 1576
1 a : the quality or state of being changeable : MUTABILITY b : natural change or mutation visible in nature or in human affairs
2 a : a favorable or unfavorable event or situation that occurs by chance : a fluctuation of state or condition <the vicissitudes of daily life> b : a difficulty or hardship attendant on a way of life, a career, or a course of action and usually beyond one's control c : alternating change : SUCCESSION

:nod:

 

[alacattleman]

You can put fear in any bull with a good pickup and heavy grill guard. I have seen it done on various occasions. They have no desire for a second go around. But that era is done.

not quite,,,, that ranch hand guard is a great equalizer :cowboy:

 

[randiliana]

You can put fear in any bull with a good pickup and heavy grill guard. I have seen it done on various occasions. They have no desire for a second go around. But that era is done.

not quite,,,, that ranch hand guard is a great equalizer :cowboy:

Yeah, but the problem with using a truck, is that they still won't respect a horse, a bike or a human on the ground. It's all great if you can use your truck, but when you get them in a corral you still have to handle on foot.

 

[Chris H]

That bull that almost took me on the 4-wheeler, just missed getting me again this morning.
Ran the herd into a stubble field near the corrals. That bull and our heifer bull were fighting in the pasture earlier; I made a wide circle around them. Did not even approach or try to push them. They followed the cows in.
Got all 3 bulls into the corral with some of the cows. Got them cut off with just 4 cows and a couple of calves.
Bulls went around the squeeze chute and I was pushing the cows out on foot. I was standing near the calf table when I caught some movement out of my right eye.
No I did not have my back to them.
Here he came with his head down and picking up the pace. I jumped around the calf table and climbed up the fence. Yelled at the hubby who was at the gate to shut the gate because he was now heading his way. He slammed the gate into the bulls head.
I got in the same pen with the hubby and told him that bull had better be in the trailer and headed to the sale yard Monday morning.
The other 2 bulls were still behind the squeeze chute.

So did he head out to hamburger heaven yesterday?

 

[Idaman]

No problem from a horse, truck, ATV, or on foot.

Carry a 410 loaded with rock salt. One shot, take some time off to let the salt start to work, see if he'll cooperate if not then administer one more application of salt. Never had to use more than two. From then on just the sound of the hammer cocking will get all you want in heading and movement, away.
You will not believe how cooperative they can be and respectful. :tiphat: