alalfa

[bandit80]

Limited amount being the operative term for very, very expensive.

Being in the seed business and selling alfalfa as well, I would guess roundup ready alfalfa to be $100 more than non roundup ready alfalfa.

 

[dun]

I have had good luck with Post

What is post or who makes it

it is actually Poast
is made by BASF
and is sethoxydim

Interesting, I'll mention it

 

[john250]

I'll verify. Poast will take Johnson Grass and other grasses out of Alfalfa. I think it works best with crop oil. Volume around 20 gallon is best.

Limited amount being the operative term for very, very expensive.

Being in the seed business and selling alfalfa as well, I would guess roundup ready alfalfa to be $100 more than non roundup ready alfalfa.

Per 50 lb bag?

 

[Angus Cowman]

I'll verify. Poast will take Johnson Grass and other grasses out of Alfalfa. I think it works best with crop oil. Volume around 20 gallon is best.

that is what I apply at 20 gal volume and 8oz of Poast per acre

it seems to knock the Johnson grass back a bit but I ain't sure if it has killed any :lol: :lol:

 

[curtis]

I'll verify. Poast will take Johnson Grass and other grasses out of Alfalfa. I think it works best with crop oil. Volume around 20 gallon is best.

that is what I apply at 20 gal volume and 8oz of Poast per acre

it seems to knock the Johnson grass back a bit but I ain't sure if it has killed any :lol: :lol:

An just to think, when i was a teenager i planted 150 acres of Johnson grass for the U of A experiment station. :nod: :nod: :lol2:

 

[Stocker Steve]

You mucst not have the weed problems like we have around here. If you can;t spray to kill the marestail, bull nettle, invasive fescue, rag weed, etc. you wouldn;t have a crop. The neighbor does alfalfa and johnson grass. The last 2 years (that would be the second and third years since planting) the hay is 90% marestail and ragweed.

My cattle really seem to like ragweed. You must have an infected variety?

 

[john250]

As tobacco faded from the fields, I began to grow some alfalfa. The same soils favor both crops.
My cattle began to look a bit better the first winter. 7 yrs later they look a lot better. The stuff yields, and it yields feed value. As a supplement to the low value fescue we often have available, it works pretty well. The digestible part is so much better than common hay.

 

[smuff76]

Just to update this, we talked to America's Alfalfa earlier this week and it seems they aren't quite as confident now about when it will be released.......... Sounds like it is going back and forth and she can't figure out what the government is going to decide, or probably more accurately, when they will decide to finally release it.

 

[dun]

Just to update this, we talked to America's Alfalfa earlier this week and it seems they aren't quite as confident now about when it will be released.......... Sounds like it is going back and forth and she can't figure out what the government is going to decide, or probably more accurately, when they will decide to finally release it.

That was pretty much the same story I got when I asked when the court made it's ruling.

 

[GMN]

I have been doing alot of research on alfalfa, if you can get it to grow seems to be a good thing. MFA suggested to broadcast it with wheat/oats, but you have to put down alot to broadcast it, the seed depth can only be 1/4 to 1/8 of an inch is why they suggest broadcasting it with some fertilizer. i had a soil test done, and the field is alot better than what I thought, but the expense is something I am not sure we can afford right now-maybe in the spring. I'm not convinced it is the way to go, as it is expensive to maintain, and fertilize after the first and last cuttings, is an expense too. The seed MFA sells is very high, $4.25 a lb, a WL343HQ brand, and that is alot more than I could afford, makes me wonder if it just wouldn't be cheaper to buy it, and get the better quality, say from NE or IL-just my thoughts right now.

 

[Angus Cowman]

I have been doing alot of research on alfalfa, if you can get it to grow seems to be a good thing. MFA suggested to broadcast it with wheat/oats, but you have to put down alot to broadcast it, the seed depth can only be 1/4 to 1/8 of an inch is why they suggest broadcasting it with some fertilizer. i had a soil test done, and the field is alot better than what I thought, but the expense is something I am not sure we can afford right now-maybe in the spring. I'm not convinced it is the way to go, as it is expensive to maintain, and fertilize after the first and last cuttings, is an expense too. The seed MFA sells is very high, $4.25 a lb, a WL343HQ brand, and that is alot more than I could afford, makes me wonder if it just wouldn't be cheaper to buy it, and get the better quality, say from NE or IL-just my thoughts right now.

I think that is what I said originally
serriously Gail with the cost of trying to raise alfalfa around here you can buy better quality cheaper than you can raise it
sad but true

 

[novaman]

Buying dairy quality hay can be expensive. There is a lot of alfalfa produced in ND & SD and I still have trouble getting top notch quality. Add to that the fact that trucking is getting quite expensive these days. I have no idea the conditions in your area but if I could get alfalfa to grow decent I would seriously consider it. I would avoid broadcast seeding alfalfa. You end up putting out way more seed in hopes of getting a good stand to catch. You are money ahead doing a good job preparing the seedbed properly and renting a drill that works for seeding alfalfa. I've used a Brillion drill and had pretty good luck with establishing a nice stand. As you said seed depth is critical.

 

[smuff76]

I have been doing alot of research on alfalfa, if you can get it to grow seems to be a good thing. MFA suggested to broadcast it with wheat/oats, but you have to put down alot to broadcast it, the seed depth can only be 1/4 to 1/8 of an inch is why they suggest broadcasting it with some fertilizer. i had a soil test done, and the field is alot better than what I thought, but the expense is something I am not sure we can afford right now-maybe in the spring. I'm not convinced it is the way to go, as it is expensive to maintain, and fertilize after the first and last cuttings, is an expense too. The seed MFA sells is very high, $4.25 a lb, a WL343HQ brand, and that is alot more than I could afford, makes me wonder if it just wouldn't be cheaper to buy it, and get the better quality, say from NE or IL-just my thoughts right now.

You can find pretty good alfalfa cheaper than that per lb. The Venus Brand Alfalfa is around $3.10 a lb. and the Venus 4PlusT is under $4. It is definately worth your while to rent a drill for $8 per acre. You will use 15-20 lbs of seed per acre with the drill and 25+ with broadcasting. An extra 5 lbs. per acre drill vs broadcast is $15-20 depending on the variety you use........ so the $8 per acre for the drill is money in your pocket before you even consider the better stand you get with the drill.