Advice Selling 6-month 50% AA bull

[LaurlaFarms]

We inherited a mixed Angus (possibly Brangus?) heifer of unknown mixed heritage and bred her with a FullBlood, AAA registered bull (23114 CHIEF LYNN). She calved a healthy bull July 4th 2024. We now want to sell him soon. Should I, OR Can I, register him? Should I do DNA analysis on the Dam? What tests would identify her lineage?

 

[Lucky_P]

Unregisterable. AAA has closed herdbook; both sire & dam must be registered in order to register offspring.
He's just a crossbred calf that's at least 50% Angus.

 

[LaurlaFarms]

Copy that! Thanks. We pretty well figured that to be the case but I am trying to figure out my best way to advertise him and the best source to advertise in. I figured if I knew the Dam's heritage I could include that info. Any advice on best DNA analysis? Any advice on where I should advertise? We are in N.W. Florida
We are in N.W. Florida

 

[Warren Allison]

We inherited a mixed Angus (possibly Brangus?) heifer of unknown mixed heritage and bred her with a FullBlood, AAA registered bull (23114 CHIEF LYNN). She calved a healthy bull July 4th 2024. We now want to sell him soon. Should I, OR Can I, register him? Should I do DNA analysis on the Dam? What tests would identify her lineage?

No way to register him, with AAA at least. It isn't too late to cut him. A commercial bull is worth about as much as a grade stallion. Both make much better steers and geldings.

 

[Travlr]

Copy that! Thanks. We pretty well figured that to be the case but I am trying to figure out my best way to advertise him and the best source to advertise in. I figured if I knew the Dam's heritage I could include that info. Any advice on best DNA analysis? Any advice on where I should advertise? We are in N.W. Florida
We are in N.W. Florida

Are you thinking he's worth more than meat prices? Like breeding quality? You might want to post some good pics from the side and give us a weight or a pic with a frame of reference so we know how big he is.

And if you click on your profile and go down to account details you can add your location so people aren't forever asking.

 

[Warren Allison]

Copy that! Thanks. We pretty well figured that to be the case but I am trying to figure out my best way to advertise him and the best source to advertise in. I figured if I knew the Dam's heritage I could include that info. Any advice on best DNA analysis? Any advice on where I should advertise? We are in N.W. Florida
We are in N.W. Florida

Welcome to the forums. Take a minute and go back into your profile and add your location. I don't know why or where you'd advertise a commercial black steer, or for what? He will be ready to wean in a month, and the place he will bring the most value is at the sale.

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

Probably best cut and sold as a steer.

 

[LaurlaFarms]

Welcome to the forums. Take a minute and go back into your profile and add your location. I don't know why or where you'd advertise a commercial black steer, or for what? He will be ready to wean in a month, and the place he will bring the most value is at the sale.

I added our location.

 

[LaurlaFarms]

Are you thinking he's worth more than meat prices? Like breeding quality? You might want to post some good pics from the side and give us a weight or a pic with a frame of reference so we know how big he is.

And if you click on your profile and go down to account details you can add your location so people aren't forever asking.

Added our Location. Yea he is pretty much self weaned now. Haven't seen him even try and suckle in a couple of weeks. I don't know if anyone would want him as a bull for the lowline genetics or not. So I haven't cut him. Ill get some pics posted. Thanks everyone.

 

[LaurlaFarms]

Added our Location. Yea he is pretty much self weaned now. Haven't seen him even try and suckle in a couple of weeks. I don't know if anyone would want him as a bull for the lowline genetics or not. So I haven't cut him. Ill get some pics posted. Thanks everyone.

We have two purebred heifers that are 20 months old we are going to breed for our beef.

 

[Warren Allison]

Added our Location. Yea he is pretty much self weaned now. Haven't seen him even try and suckle in a couple of weeks. I don't know if anyone would want him as a bull for the lowline genetics or not. So I haven't cut him. Ill get some pics posted. Thanks everyone.

Like I said, there isn't much of a market for grade bulls. Most cattlemen won't use them. For anyone to use him as a bull, you'd have to sell him awfully cheap. A lot cheaper than he'd bring per pound. If he is about to be 6 mos old, and is black and polled, he should bring top dollar at the sale by the pound. So how many cows/heifers you have total?

 

[LaurlaFarms]

Like I said, there isn't much of a market for grade bulls. Most cattlemen won't use them. For anyone to use him as a bull, you'd have to sell him awfully cheap. A lot cheaper than he'd bring per pound. If he is about to be 6 mos old, and is black and polled, he should bring top dollar at the sale by the pound. So how many cows/heifers you have total?

We just have the one mixed cow (more or less 3 years -old) and the 2 Pureblood American Aberdeen heifers (20 months). They are from same bull and different Dam's born of the same day!
Good advice. I'm told that in this area at the local livestock auction we would get the same $/lb wether cut or not.
Our goal is just produce our own quality beef and maybe sell a little to aquaintances locally. The lowline breed was attractive to us as older folks because of their size and reputed temperment, production per acre and quality of meat. So these are our learning curve so to speak. Also interested in the South Poll breed
developed in North Alabama.

 

[farmerjan]

Make him a steer and put him in your freezer. Maybe sell a half. Make this part of the learning curve.

I am assuming that you are talking that these are what we used to call "lowline" angus... which they have just changed the name and has completely confused most people into thinking they are "regular angus" .... It was very unfortunate that the "lowline" breeders opted to go with American Aberdeen Angus and therefore "copy cat" the AAA that has been used for years as the American Angus Assoc.... Should have left the Lowline in the name and gone with AALA..... I think it would have garnered more respect.

 

[LaurlaFarms]

Unregisterable. AAA has closed herdbook; both sire & dam must be registered in order to register offspring.
He's just a crossbred calf that's at least 50% Angus.

Actually, I received the following email today from AAA :
"Hello Robert,
Provided you are a member and can follow the registration guidelines, this animal can be registered as 50% Aberdeen. You would need to enter the commercial cow into the system to do so.
Many thanks,

Sherry Doubet
American Aberdeen Association
PO Box 850
Big Horn, Wyoming 82833

 

[simme]

Actually, I received the following email today from AAA :
"Hello Robert,
Provided you are a member and can follow the registration guidelines, this animal can be registered as 50% Aberdeen. You would need to enter the commercial cow into the system to do so.
Many thanks,

Sherry Doubet
American Aberdeen Association
PO Box 850
Big Horn, Wyoming 82833

Almost everyone in the cattle industry thinks of the AAA as the American Angus Association in St. Joseph, MO. They are the big player in beef cattle. When Lucky_P said AAA, that is who he meant.

 

[M.Magis]

Actually, I received the following email today from AAA :
"Hello Robert,
Provided you are a member and can follow the registration guidelines, this animal can be registered as 50% Aberdeen. You would need to enter the commercial cow into the system to do so.
Many thanks,

Sherry Doubet
American Aberdeen Association
PO Box 850
Big Horn, Wyoming 82833

I think when you said "AAA", everyone assumed you meant America Angus Association. The American Aberdeen Association is entirely different. You still have a mixed bull calf with unknown lineage. "Registering" would have zero purpose or benefit.

 

[LaurlaFarms]

Almost everyone in the cattle industry thinks of the AAA as the American Angus Association in St. Joseph, MO. They are the big player in beef cattle. When Lucky_P said AAA, that is who he meant.

Yes Sir, I went back and reviewed my original post and the replies and see the confusion. I'm new to this and learning these things. I agree that they should have kept the "lowline" in the association name.

 

[GoWyo]

In my humble opinion, the highest and best use of this bull calf will be as a steer. Band or cut him and get your money or feed him out.

 

[gcreekrch]

Make him a steer and put him in your freezer. Maybe sell a half. Make this part of the learning curve.

I am assuming that you are talking that these are what we used to call "lowline" angus... which they have just changed the name and has completely confused most people into thinking they are "regular angus" .... It was very unfortunate that the "lowline" breeders opted to go with American Aberdeen Angus and therefore "copy cat" the AAA that has been used for years as the American Angus Assoc.... Should have left the Lowline in the name and gone with AALA..... I think it would have garnered more respect.

You spelled Lowlife incorrectly. These mini POS cattle should all go straight to slaughter and real cattle take front and center once more.

 

[gcreekrch]

In my humble opinion, the highest and best use of this bull calf will be as a steer. Band or cut him and get your money or feed him out.

Yes, half lowlife won’t do him any favours at all sale barn.