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I hope this is the right plave to post this.... Anyway we sold a bred hiefer at auction in April along with 3 others... well we got a call the other day that the hiefer aborted the calf at about 6 months and the vet was called. the vet says the hiefer will not breed back. Now the guy who bought her wants us to may some kind of compensation for her what would ya'll do? I dont mind paying for the calf maybe... I just dont know the guy who bought her and what kind of a cow man he is suppose to be. was the hiefer is trouble for awhile causing the problem of her not breeding back. I know she was healthy when we sold her. So what would ya do? Thanks for any advice.
 
I'ld offer him my condolences. She was obviously a breeder when sold. You have no way of knowing why she aborted. Sounds like his problem, not yours.

dun
 
no this was not a registered acution it was at the GA beef expo. we sold 15 head of breed hiefers she is the only one we have heard anything out of.
 
I'd say, "Dang I hate that." But if you sold her and had no idea of anything being wrong, it was beyond your control. I would seriously hate that it happened, don't get me wrong. But you don't know that she didn't fall on the ride home or got ruffed up by his cattle. Things like that happen to all of us at one time or another.
 
I don't know about a beef expo but any other auction I've been to there is no "money back guarantee" unless otherwise stated by the seller. If you sold her as a bred heifer and she was in good health at the time of sale I see no reason why you should owe him anything, for a calf or otherwise. You never know, she could of ate something at his place or was kicked/butted by one of his other cows - being no fault of her own. If you want to, I would call the auction people and see what they say.
 
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dun":16e1udw2 said:
I'ld offer him my condolences. She was obviously a breeder when sold. You have no way of knowing why she aborted. Sounds like his problem, not yours.

dun
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Ditto - buyer beware unless there is/was some sort of verbal/written guarantee. You did nothing wrong. What if he had taken her home and she got snake bit or struck by lightening? It's the risk we all take. This happens a small percentage of the time and he should know it.
 
Why would the vet say she won't breed back? Something is amiss.

I'd agree - she was bred and safe when you sold her. She stayed that way for months. Perhaps she ate something toxic or she got injured.
 
Thank you all for you're replies. I feel the same way.
Dusty as you stated I feel something is amiss with her being able to bred back. We have had caves aborted but the momma amost always breeds back. I feel like this hiefer went into labor and was not watched very closely when she started haveing problems. I feel this cow boy may have let her get septic and thus causing her to unable to breed back. what do you think could this have happened. I know all things are possible with cows. believe me I know this.
 
Southerngal":j6m96gpk said:
Thank you all for you're replies. I feel the same way.
Dusty as you stated I feel something is amiss with her being able to bred back. We have had caves aborted but the momma amost always breeds back. I feel like this hiefer went into labor and was not watched very closely when she started haveing problems. I feel this cow boy may have let her get septic and thus causing her to unable to breed back. what do you think could this have happened. I know all things are possible with cows. believe me I know this.
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Ask the vet why he/she said the heifer wouldn't breed back. There may be something we aren't being told but just because she aborted doesn't mean she won't breed back.
 
You had a healthy bred heifer and took her to the sale with the others. You sold her and he bought her. You have no more responsibility. Many things happen at an auction and cows get kicked, butted, pushed around and even frightened. Occasionally a cow will abort a calf simply from being pregnancy checked. There was another thread where it was emphasized that it is buyer beware at an auction. You should not feel obligated in any way. It is a shame that it had to happen, but things happen with animals, as with people
 
You sold (legitimately) in APRIL.... it is not your responsibility....to guarantee that animal for MONTHS !?!?!


If the buyer had some type of leg to stand on that perhaps the bred heifer was hurt at the sale barn, perhaps it could be an insurance thing....after all....whenever we are selling at the barns part of the money taken out of our checks is for insurance, right?
 
Mitch, here, there is money deducted per animal as insurance. It covers an animal from the moment they are loaded at the farm until the moment they are loaded out at the sale barn. Once an animal leaves the sale barn, there is no right of refusal or monetary recovery. This is why the cattle should be carefull inspected before loading them at the barn. Internal injuries cannot be seen, so there is a danger. There is an exception in the case of a cow-calf pair. The barn guarantees them as a pair, so if you get them home and they do not belong together, the barns that I deal with will contact the buyers of the other cows and find the other mismatched pairs and will pickup and deliver the calves to make it right or pick up the cattle and refund your money.
 
sorry sir!!!! we do not offer 100000 mile warrenties on our lifestock!
sold as bred! aborted 6 mos later, (she was bred) no misrerpresentation there!! why wont she breed back??? i do not really see a corrilation there, unless there was an internal problem!! call the vet and find out why he said that!! OR is this something the buyer is saying to make you feel GUILTY enough to make some sort of restitutuion!!
i do not see it as your problem, SALE BARN = BUYER BEWARE
NO CONTRACT of live birth = SORRY SIR
do not lose sleep over this not you problem!!
 
Perhapse you can get the name of the vet that checked the heifer and called her a non breeder. That may add to the missing pieces of the story? But as everyone else said...not your problem.
 

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