SRBeef":33s8yrw1 said:
I am very happy for you, USC Angus. It is always amazing to see new life be born. There also ar a lot of positive things about country life.
However to be very honest with you and the other dental person replying here, I find it a bit alarming that both of you feel such a need to get away from dentistry which you at some point chose as your life's work.
You also are probably using income which you derived from the city to get started with cattle, as I guess I am and probably quite a few others on this board.
There is nothing wrong with taking outside income to get into cattle. It is as good a "hobby" as any I guess.
However I think it is important that all we "newbies" starting in cattle with outside funds realize that it is not nearly that easy nor often all that rosy if you are living in the same country but trying/needing to make your living from it.
I guess I hate to see people "bad-mouth" the city that they used to generate the income to move to the country. I also hate to see newcomers overly glorify country life - that may not look quite so rosy if you had to make a living exclusively from it.
Now I understand Watts may not be the most beautiful place in the world but it is part of the world. And no doubt there are many less fortunate, and maybe equally hard working, people living in Watts that would also love to live in the country but did not have the dental or other career training that you and I were fortunate enough to be able to obtain.
With cattle, I think we need to appreciate city folks, for one thing, as our customer base. If everyone lived in the country and raised cattle there would be no market for farm products.
We need each other, city and country folks. I am glad you are enthusiastic about cattle and the country.
When I go to a dentist for dental work, I hope to have a dentist who is equally, if not exclusively, enthusiastic about his DENTISTRY as he is about his cattle. We all need variety and change in our lives. It keeps us fresh. Having cattle may help make you a better dentist. I know my cattle help me keep perspective on my day job.
Congratulations on your new adventure. Maybe it will help renew your enthusiasm for dentistry. Balance in life.
jmho.
Jim
in regard the unfortunate people in watts or any other place. i did not come from a legacy family. i come from a family of thirteen kids and three died from no medical care. i grew up worst area than anyone in this country during this generation. i am from the philippines islands and at one time could have been the 47,48,49,or 50 states prior to hawaii or arizona. we were like puerto rico or guam or siapan , common wealth island. we were the first colonial country of AMERICA, NOT United States. we had no welfare systems. the twelves us were borne at our basic hut in the islands, no mid-wives or md but an old lady that had no educated schooling except thru experiences.
our house called make shift hut had no windows,doors but wood plank flooring about 1/2 inch apart. hence, we had surround air-conditions. we had no electricity,no running water, and no basic out-house. hence, we were very poor. if you had to use a bathroom, you had to dig a hole. no charmin except leaves. the only meat i consumed was dried fish jerky since no electricity. every time there is a flood, it would be fourth of july or christmas because the fish would come to the city when water subsided.
my dad finished high school and mom was forced to quit 3rd grade to help her family because her dad died prematurely. we came here because my dad served the ww2 to fight the imperial japanese and was at the bataan death march where many americans died in large numbers. we did not have any handout such as welfare or food stamp. or free schooling. he came here at the age 48 in 1968 and we waited two years later to arrive in this country called, AMERICA, not the United States. in ten years later, he retired and educated all of us. we all have college degrees because there is only one way to go-which was up. it was to ameliorate our lives and our parents life. we ,in return, cared for our parents which one time was common in this country, to care for our elders.
my wife and i were educated at USC with the same careers with no legacy money except student loans. i have lived from the poorest and darkest part in this life. i have seen death and poverty. i have seen crimes and destruction from my early upbringing. i have seen waste and fruitless. this country, called AMERICA, IS STILL THE MOST BOUNTIFUL COUNTRY. to appreciate this home, anyone should see other countries and live how the other third world country. anyone will appreciate the value of this home, called AMERICA.
i elected to get a second career by raising cattle or hobby in farming. i did not want just to grow little garden in the city. i have been a dentist for 20 years. i have seen 15-20k patients. i have had three offices. my first office had 20 employees with three dentist when i was a little younger in seattle. graduating from USC and from a third country, your thinking is a little different and little bit hungry. there is nothing wrong using OPM, other people money. able to use cattle as a tax deductions and minimizing my taxes, there is nothing wrong. i have paid almost 40% percent of my income to tax man, each year. i am just tired paying the tax man. i have paid my dues.
anyway, the second calf dropped at 1:00 pm at seattle time. sorry, i got side track about what you have said- but i wanted to indicate that i did not do this-as blind folded. i have did a lot research and cost analysis. have read many journals and articles from different vetenerian schools. but thank you for your generous and kindly response. uscangus
