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We had a calf get naval ill a first for us we treated the calf on Sunday he died today anyone ever have this happen. Our herdsman took some photos he said he thinks the calf got stepped on. This has not been a stellar calving season we have lost 4 calves.

Gizmom
 
I have had calves with navel infections but never lost one. Back in the day it was common to lose them because of screw worms. Thank goodness those days are long gone.
 
naval ill most normally results in joint infections and lameness way before progressing to death.....

depends on the age of the calf and the particular bugs incurred.

usually very treatable if caught early......

i usually don't worry about naval ill or even dip with iodine if I am calving on good pasture.....less than good pasture then you need to be fanatical about dipping navals.
 
Deal with several a year. Klebsealia (sp) is one of the bacteria we isolated from an infected navel. Once caught we treated with oxytet as it is sup to it. I dont know why we have so many as we calve on clean pasture we cows in more than acceptable bcs.
 
I am still waiting to get the pictures from Mike but he told me he thinks the calf got stepped on he was up and running around Monday afternoon and nurseing and Tuesday morning he was dead with his innards hanging out. Since we have never had navel ill I really don't know if that was it or it like Chippien said he had something wrong in in innards to start with or got stepped on. Just one of those things I sure hate it, we try to keep them calving on clean pastures, Mike did say that this one calved right in a gate where they gather the morning after a rain so in the mud not a good place to calve. He did dip the navel when he tagged the calf that was on Friday Jacob checked the herd on Saturday and didn't see anything wrong, Sunday his navel was really swollen we treated him with antibiotics he acted better on Monday and was dead first thing Tuesday morning. The first two calves we lost back in August during a hurricane (just a baby one) but we still got the low pressure. We did take the calf to the state lab in Elba and they didn't find anything wrong with the calf other than being early. We lost one that was out of a first calf heifer a commercial calf and the calf was 85 pounds this out of a bull that hadn't thrown anything but light birth weight calves all season, the largest up to that point had been 70 pounds.

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Sounds more like a ruptured umbilical hernia to me. Some are traumatic, or could be an inherent weakness the calf had. If it is a calf out of new sire for you keep an eye on that sire group in case it is congential. Too bad your calving season is going so poorly, but it happens. We rarely lose any and we lost 5 last year, all from stupid unpreventable stuff. Law of averages I guess but it sure makes you want to kick the wall when it happens.
 
There are 3 different conditions being discussed.
1. Naval infection - just like it sounds - naval gets infected - pretty easily treated.
2. Naval Ill - bacteria enters the bloodstream thru the newborns unbilical cord at birth - sets up house in the joints - very hard to clear up - but with really, really persistance can be done.
3. ruptured umbilical hernia - if caught early, calf can be operated on to close hernia. But, even if it gets really bad - not sure if guts would actually break thru the hide??? I don't have any experience on this.
(not a vet - so terms/explaination might not be technically correct - but you can get the picture)
 
Well I think your right three different issues I also think after seeing the picture it was originally misdiagnosed and it was in fact a ruptured umbilical hernia. Whatever it was the calf is sure Nuff stone cold dead and I sure hate that. We have very little trouble with naval infections so seeing the swelling at first we just thought that was what we we dealing with. Hindsight being 20/20 we should have hauled him to the vet but honestly we just didn't realize the severity of the problem. Time to move on we start AI on heifers in another couple of weeks.

Gizmom
 

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