3 way baldy cross ?

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Looking for a maternal continental breed to cover angus/herf F1s. I am told on average simi has a better carcass - - but GV is more maternal. What is your experience ?
 
Of course you know my vote is Gelbvieh. I would have gone the other way though. Red Gv bull on Herf cows and then an Angus on the calves.
 
Could go either way, sim probably would have the better carcass because of the breed working to improve carcass scores, but either, or.
 
If you retain ownership through slaughter go with Simmenthal, otherwise Gelbvieh. Although other then carcass qualitys I see little differences in our 3 way crosses.
 
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3waycross":1h77u03h said:
Of course you know my vote is Gelbvieh. I would have gone the other way though. Red Gv bull on Herf cows and then an Angus on the calves.
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How is GV X more complementary for replacements vs. than the traditional herf X angus cross ?
 
Stocker Steve":3pyscb9l said:
3waycross":3pyscb9l said:
Of course you know my vote is Gelbvieh. I would have gone the other way though. Red Gv bull on Herf cows and then an Angus on the calves.
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How is GV X more complementary for replacements vs. than the traditional herf X angus cross ?
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I would say it's milk.
 
I have 3 small herfs left from the running age cows I bought in 2009. I keep almost all their heifers. I had been using a balancer bull on them but he is gone now.

I bought another 35 short term cows this winter - - and most are herfs... (I told the BA neighbors I was planning to get rich by holding a Herf dispersal.) The cows are starting to calve now and I need to expand the bull battery. I have one red and one black simi breeder locally, and the Genex AI book is full of simi x BA bulls. I would need to travel for GV or balancer.
 
Stocker Steve":21b7aqtt said:
3waycross":21b7aqtt said:
Of course you know my vote is Gelbvieh. I would have gone the other way though. Red Gv bull on Herf cows and then an Angus on the calves.
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How is GV X more complementary for replacements vs. than the traditional herf X angus cross ?
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More heterosis. They should hold up a little longer and have a little more milk.
 
Stocker Steve":3mwdzzs0 said:
I have 3 small herfs left from the running age cows I bought in 2009. I keep almost all their heifers. I had been using a balancer bull on them but he is gone now.

I bought another 35 short term cows this winter - - and most are herfs... (I told the BA neighbors I was planning to get rich by holding a Herf dispersal.) The cows are starting to calve now and I need to expand the bull battery. I have one red and one black simi breeder locally, and the Genex AI book is full of simi x BA bulls. I would need to travel for GV or balancer.
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Genex has 2 black "gelbvieh" bulls in their lineup. http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... eh&lang=EN
 
shortybreeder":am24nysx said:
Stocker Steve":am24nysx said:
I have 3 small herfs left from the running age cows I bought in 2009. I keep almost all their heifers. I had been using a balancer bull on them but he is gone now.

I bought another 35 short term cows this winter - - and most are herfs... (I told the BA neighbors I was planning to get rich by holding a Herf dispersal.) The cows are starting to calve now and I need to expand the bull battery. I have one red and one black simi breeder locally, and the Genex AI book is full of simi x BA bulls. I would need to travel for GV or balancer.
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Genex has 2 black "gelbvieh" bulls in their lineup. http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... eh&lang=EN
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Just what everyone is looking for, bulls with a BW of 96 and 99 lbs
 
dun":17stj9i2 said:
shortybreeder":17stj9i2 said:
Stocker Steve":17stj9i2 said:
I have 3 small herfs left from the running age cows I bought in 2009. I keep almost all their heifers. I had been using a balancer bull on them but he is gone now.

I bought another 35 short term cows this winter - - and most are herfs... (I told the BA neighbors I was planning to get rich by holding a Herf dispersal.) The cows are starting to calve now and I need to expand the bull battery. I have one red and one black simi breeder locally, and the Genex AI book is full of simi x BA bulls. I would need to travel for GV or balancer.
Click to expand...
Genex has 2 black "gelbvieh" bulls in their lineup. http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... eh&lang=EN
Click to expand...
Just what everyone is looking for, bulls with a BW of 96 and 99 lbs
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Some people actually are looking for that. Also, any mature cow should be able to easily handle that.
 
shortybreeder":3j84yjmb said:
Stocker Steve":3j84yjmb said:
I have 3 small herfs left from the running age cows I bought in 2009. I keep almost all their heifers. I had been using a balancer bull on them but he is gone now.

I bought another 35 short term cows this winter - - and most are herfs... (I told the BA neighbors I was planning to get rich by holding a Herf dispersal.) The cows are starting to calve now and I need to expand the bull battery. I have one red and one black simi breeder locally, and the Genex AI book is full of simi x BA bulls. I would need to travel for GV or balancer.
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Genex has 2 black "gelbvieh" bulls in their lineup. http://genex.crinet.com/beef/index.php? ... eh&lang=EN
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I wouldn't breed to either one of them. If you want GV semen go to Bull Barn or Cattleman's Connection and if anyone want help sleecting a bull from either on PM me and I will do what I can to help you.
 
3waycross":4l4wz8mw said:
Of course you know my vote is Gelbvieh. I would have gone the other way though. Red Gv bull on Herf cows and then an Angus on the calves.
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I'm gonna get you one of those oversized purple hats and a long matching coat.....with a lot of fake gold chains! Pimp 3way and Snoop Dog! LOL
 
Gators Rule":d5f94k42 said:
3waycross":d5f94k42 said:
Of course you know my vote is Gelbvieh. I would have gone the other way though. Red Gv bull on Herf cows and then an Angus on the calves.
Click to expand...


I'm gonna get you one of those oversized purple hats and a long matching coat.....with a lot of fake gold chains! Pimp 3way and Snoop Dog! LOL
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:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
 

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