3 Questions....

[machslammer]

1) Can you give older cows (5-10 yrs old) Lute around 30 days after calving to make them come back in heat quicker, even when running a bull with them year round?

2) What happens if you give a cow Lute and she was already bred?

3)Have any of you had problems with a bull breaking down any cows? How big is too big? And what about a 1900# bull(same height as cows) breeding 1000-1300# cows? Any problems?

Thanks in advance for answers.

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

1 if she is not cycling lute won't make her cycle unless she is cystic/
2 make he abort.
3 depends on the bull. Most bulls will give you no problems.

 

[machslammer]

1) Why do people use lute in the first place? My cows will cycle, some before I wean calf and some after. Just trying to get the ones after I wean the calves to start cycling before they are weaned. . Just thought that might work to assist with getting them to come back in and get them all closer in a breeding period. Thanks.

 

[kenny thomas]

1) Why do people use lute in the first place? My cows will cycle, some before I wean calf and some after. Just trying to get the ones after I wean the calves to start cycling before they are weaned. . Just thought that might work to assist with getting them to come back in and get them all closer in a breeding period. Thanks.

A cow should never, never, never wait as long as weaning the calf to start cycling.They should start no more than 90 days after calving. Sooner if they are good doing cattle. If they are well fed and there is not an health issue they should be in that range.

 

[Stocker Steve]

1) Why do people use lute in the first place?

To AI as many cows as possible over about a 5 day window.

 

[machslammer]

1) Why do people use lute in the first place?

To AI as many cows as possible over about a 5 day window.

Ok, so if that's the case... Why can't you lute and have the bull self service the cow in a 5 day window??

 

[1982vett]

1) Why do people use lute in the first place?

To AI as many cows as possible over about a 5 day window.

Ok, so if that's the case... Why can't you lute and have the bull self service the cow in a 5 day window??

The.... meaning one? ..... Wouldn't try that with more than several.

 

[Floyd]

Retained placenta is a good reason to administer lute.

Had a cow (464#hanging wt this spring) that missed one yr because she did not clean out. Lost her calf this spring hence hanging wt.

 

[machslammer]

The.... meaning one? ..... Wouldn't try that with more than several.

Have only 1 bull, but not all my cows have calved yet, and only have 15 cows total. Was just trying to get them into a tighter grouping. Instead of a calf here, calf there, here a calf, there a calf, ya know. . .
All of mine last year had calved early spring within 1-2 months of each other. This spring I have seven calves and 4 yet to have one.. Just want them closer in groupings..

And my thoughts was to get about 4-5 at a time 15-45 days after calving and give them the shot to make next year closer in calving season.. Just wondered if it had ever been done with natural servicing..

I know AI is the way to go with Lute, and know that it won't make a cow come in that is too old to breed, ect, but all my cows cycle(just several of them not until they wean the calf that's on them.) and was gonna try something to assist with coming back in heat together and little sooner. I seperated the seven from their mothers this time for 48 hours and then paired back up, and put out a good loose breeding mineral so gonna see if this helps too..

 

[machslammer]

1) Why do people use lute in the first place? My cows will cycle, some before I wean calf and some after. Just trying to get the ones after I wean the calves to start cycling before they are weaned. . Just thought that might work to assist with getting them to come back in and get them all closer in a breeding period. Thanks.

A cow should never, never, never wait as long as weaning the calf to start cycling.They should start no more than 90 days after calving. Sooner if they are good doing cattle. If they are well fed and there is not an health issue they should be in that range.

WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TELL MY COWS THIS THEORY!!! Would help me out a bunch!!

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

You need to tell them, shape up or ship out.

 

[machslammer]

You need to tell them, shape up or ship out.

LOL. I do, about every week when no calf has popped out yet!

 

[kenny thomas]

1) Why do people use lute in the first place? My cows will cycle, some before I wean calf and some after. Just trying to get the ones after I wean the calves to start cycling before they are weaned. . Just thought that might work to assist with getting them to come back in and get them all closer in a breeding period. Thanks.

A cow should never, never, never wait as long as weaning the calf to start cycling.They should start no more than 90 days after calving. Sooner if they are good doing cattle. If they are well fed and there is not an health issue they should be in that range.

WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TELL MY COWS THIS THEORY!!! Would help me out a bunch!!

No theory, sell them and replace each with one that will calve at most every 12 months.

 

[highgrit]

Machslammer, you need some new cows or need to get them in better shape. A cow should breed back within 6-8 weeks at the most. Make sure they have all the mineral that they want.

 

[tom4018]

1) Why do people use lute in the first place? My cows will cycle, some before I wean calf and some after. Just trying to get the ones after I wean the calves to start cycling before they are weaned. . Just thought that might work to assist with getting them to come back in and get them all closer in a breeding period. Thanks.

A cow should never, never, never wait as long as weaning the calf to start cycling.They should start no more than 90 days after calving. Sooner if they are good doing cattle. If they are well fed and there is not an health issue they should be in that range.

WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TELL MY COWS THIS THEORY!!! Would help me out a bunch!!

IF they are not calving about every 12 months something is wrong. When are they calving? If you are trying to breed back in our hot humid weather that slows them down. Has the bull been tested? May be nothing wrong with the cows. Might be wroth a vet visit to check it all out.

 

[machslammer]

IF they are not calving about every 12 months something is wrong. When are they calving? If you are trying to breed back in our hot humid weather that slows them down. Has the bull been tested? May be nothing wrong with the cows. Might be wroth a vet visit to check it all out.

Bull has been checked and is excellent reproducer per 2 vet BSEs. .

Part of the rebreeding may have been my fault as I pulled a bull in August, replaced with a new one at same time, he was no good, Replaced him in Sept with a young bull that was good, and then replaced him this April. So We gonna see what next year brings..

But, for the most part we either weaned or sold calves last July and Sept, so it looks like 4 or 5 didn't rebreed till their calves were pulled, which was also around bull change times, BUT realistically they should have rebred before that anyways..

Run DOWN: Jan 2012: 2 calves(1 had another Dec 2012 and the other still does not have a calf to this date.. She will be sold, waiting on vet check to see if she is even bred or how far along she is. She lost lots of weight after her last calf. She really put out the milk! 640# steer in 5 1/2 months.)
Feb 2012: 1 calf(She is just now fixing to calf again) Great cow, may give her 1 more attempt.
March 2012: 2 calves(1 had one 20 day prior to being a year, the other still not had one and will be sold after this one unless it's very soon!)
April 2012 : 3 calves ( 1 had calf 9 1/2 months later, 1 had calf 12 months 10 days later, and the third still not had one but looks like she gonna pop any day. Good big cow and will prob keep another year if she hurrys up. She'll be 14 months.) But with those April calves it's June/july before they re-breed and it's hot here that time of year.

That's all that should have had by now. Bought a heifer last year that is due anytime now, Had 1 that had a calf end of Sept and 2 first of Oct that aren't due yet. And 3 bought end of last year that had calves first of this year. So Now that I have a steady bull in their with them that I like, we'll see how these do next year.. But I have 2 and possibly 3 that will go to market after vet comes to check and make sure they not 8 months bred.

 

[Wyattc02]

Nutrition plays an important role, not just mineral. If they are older you may need to check their teeth as well. If they can't eat the first thing to go is the reproductive deal.