Deepsouth, It appears we have a low population of Toms here and no Jakes. We have had at least three bad hatches. I even think I killed the only 2 year old here around the farm. Got some "old" smart tough birds, I'm hoping we get restocked soon because these old birds are sooner or later gonna kick over and die. The few birds we've got has gobbled ok but not really well. I think some stay with the hens 24 hours around the clock and don't have to gobble.