well the biggest goofs ive made in the past... retaining f1 heifers from 7+ simmental bulls.. just when you think they've quit growing they hit another growth spurt... i sold my last monster about 5 years ago she weighed 1800.00 pnds in average condition...i could empty a bottle of ivomec on the first 3 head, bad teats on a certain line of brahman,which i will rename mainless :cowboy: unless you twist my arm, that came back to haunt me in my F1's.. just not paying attention ...they made some of the biggest, prettiest heifers around. and werent practical, functional, worth a dam...