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:D Actually, I'm envious too. I might not have been clear but I don't have the baldies yet, just some middle aged angus plus cows. I'm looking to change direction slightly and plan to purchase the bladies and a new bull over the next couple of months.

The way I understand it, yes. The super baldy would always be a 3 way cross (either herford over brangus or angus over F-1 braford). I understand the reasons to not retain from a 3 way cross, but If I'm trying to grow the herd and keep a few daughters from the best cows, I wanted to see what...

Thanks for all of the input. I guess I should have also qualified what I was calling a super black baldy as some may have other definitions. I am looking at baldies from a F1 tiger cow and a black angus bull. So 1/2 angus, 1/4 herford, and 1/4 brahman. Rafter, I was kind of leaning towards...

I will have to do some google'n on the black simmental. I know zero about them. Will they melt in triple digits, or do they hold up?

What's y'alls opinion on a optimal bull to put out with super black baldies? Two questions really - what breed bull is best for marketing calves and what bull would be OK if you were to retain a few heifers? I was thinking angus for marketing calves to reduce the ear a little. Maybe brangus...