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I guess this question was directed at me. Here in tn the premium is $5 to $10 per hundred I guess.

Eastern is out of business. Not sure who the owners were.

These cattle would be what I raised but they would be straight and weaned 60 days. They WOULD NOT be an even load though which may be an issue. They would be steers/ heifers weights 600-800 so would be hard to sell as a load which is why I was thinking stockyard.

It was a bad deal all the way around from what I heard.

I'm 4 miles from Eastern. Small world. What do you buy cattle to put on grass or feed?

49,000 here at $1.30 = $63,700 49,000 x 5% additional shrink = 46,550 at ElReno at $1.50 =$69,825 Minus trucking 678x4.25 = $2881 $69,825-$2881 = $66,944 Profit of $3244 if my assumptions of shrink and price difference are close If not, then maybe it's a starting point for further discussion...

The thread on breeds board got me wanting to post about something I've been studying for awhile. Has anyone run the numbers on shipping preconditioned calve from say Tennessee to some of the better markets say OKC, Joplin or elsewhere. I can't seem to get a grasp on what size, age, time of year...

Investment : noun , the action or process of investing money for material profit or result We dont agree on land investment but it sounds like everyone on here is willing to count taxes in the cow cost. So lets get back on subject of annual cow cost.

Can you give me an example of what you think would be an investment?

I would call it an investment. Once sold, then it would be profit (hopefully)

My $15,000 tractor, $2500 truck, and $5000 truck, and $2000 trailer (all paid for) cost me $10,000 this year in repairs, tires, etc. I might could have made payments on those things you mentioned above at that cost. Point being....cost is cost and needs to be included unless you're using partly...

It varies some year to year but working on taxes right now and it's looking to be about the same. Per cow cost: Hay $175 Grass $100 (doesn't matter rented or own it cost $100 in rent or $100 in taxes, fertilizer and spray on owned land) Fuel $30 (trucks and tractors combined) Equipment...

Around here they are turning out in late April and grazing until November. They say the amount of grass in April is pretty awesome considering there's been no cattle on it all winter. Landowners like the benefit of not feeding hay in winter and no mud, mess.

There's a lot of folks around here getting out of the cow/calf side and going to back grounding. There's appearantly enough money in it that guys with load lots or more are even able to split the gain$ 50/50 with landowners. Landowners still have to bush hog, spray, etc. and from what I'm...

Sounds like your and my scenarios are pretty close. Like you I keep them mainly so I can sell as weaned and vac'd, and not really ever tried for alot of gain. It's a little disheartening when you wean in order to give them what the market wants and then 60 days later the market suddenly wants...

2 1/2 % is still quite a bit more than I've done in the past? If I've been feeding 1 1/2% (8#) and getting 2 pounds ADG , would it be possible to get 3 pounds ADG by feeding 2 1/2 % without creating enough flesh to get docked? That extra 70 pounds would be worth $90 right now at a cost of about...

You all are helpful and Since I don't know how to reply quote to three people... ....SS....sounds like I need to aim for around 3 ADG. I agree in thinking 4.5 in unreachable in 70 days but maybe 3 or 3.5 is. hog timing......we are currently feeding 16% co-op pellets dleivered at $205 a...

You've got me thinking now. What about a high ADG? Is there money to be made there? What ration do they feed in the bull tests to get 4.5 and could you get those kind of gains in a 70 day post weaning period? I doubt it and if you did wouldn't they dock you heavy at the sale?

Good points and understood. Goal is to make money. If market is good I might sell at weaning. Only precondition depending on market at weaning time, grass situation, etc. I agree if the market stays the same I'm probably only clearing $30 -$40 per head on 150# of gain. My time doesn't really...

Thanks. I always start light making them clean it up maybe 2 or 3 pounds the first week or two. Last year after the first week I was feeding 8 pounds but this year only 4 or 5. My WDA was down this year an average of .21. Weights were actually higher this year at sale time but they were a...