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Will wonders never cease... I want to believe this article, but my mind is telling me not to get too excited until I can verify it somewhere else.. I do hope it's true, though.. :D

Especially when it's one of precious few things that we still produce.. :oops: Did you know that the US is now a *net importer* of food?? Yep.. We import more food than we produce for ourselves now.. :o

...our obligations, because nobody will continue loaning us money to cover the interest -- not to mention the fact that we simply don't generate the *revenue* to pay even a fraction of what we owe!! Suffice it to say that Mike John can walk around talking bad all he wants, but the bottom line...

Hopefully never. That's because the roosters running this show couldn't find their own peckers with two hands and a flashlight. It's not for anyone but YOU to decide what YOU should say, do, think, feel, or be. If you've got something to say, say it.. Stand up on a chair and scream it if...

Well, I did a little more research on it myself, and found that Europe just *stopped* vaccinating in '91.. I also found that the USDA apparently has a massive stockpile of vaccines in case an outbreak does occur.. (Guess my conspiracy theory of a vaccine appearing was right! :lol: )... I...

That's pretty much what I've been saying all along, in a nutshell.. NAIS is one more step toward chickenizing the beef industry. I wouldn't think very many independent producers would want to become paycheck-dependent contract farmers playing by some CEO's rules and dictations, but then again...

Agreed, 100%.. However, I think USDA's problem with that has a little something to do with the *fact* that beef ain't exactly expiring on grocery store shelves... They know the markets won't demand ID, so they want to cram it down everybody's throat.. That's why I keep going back to the...

Not sure what you're getting at here.. :?:

I'll take a crack at that (though you didn't ask. :lol: ) I doubt they're looking very hard for a 'root cause' of BSE, given that incidence rates of BSE are dropping by 50%/year worldwide and have been for quite some time now.. Even with all the loopholes, the feedbans have clearly been...

...because the old FMD diagnosis tests couldn't tell the difference between the infection and the vaccine.. False positives, in other words.. I've heard that there are new tests which *can* tell the difference... If FMD breaks out in the US, I'll bet you $100 that a vaccine appears out of...

Man, I was right there with ya until you said...... :lol: See, I haven't really noticed that at all.. When the Alabama BSE cow was found, the markets didn't crash down around anybody's ears like the USDA said it would.. It barely even stumbled.. If anybody really thinks Americans are...

Common sense from Federal Representatives? Shocking! :shock: Will wonders never cease?..... :lol:

...in the real world, who do you think would have the incentive to come up with a better idea: 1) A business owner who's worried about their *competition* making things better/cheaper/easier/faster and driving him out of business, or 2) the federal government, which can make you comply...

Depends on what you mean by "work." A lot of government programs "work" -- but only in the absolute most strict sense of the word. If, by "work" you mean "be effective," why do you believe NAIS would work any better or be any more effective than, say, WIC, Medicare, Medicaid or any Federal...

Out of curiosity, would you rather see it proceed as a mandatory or market driven program?

If that were the case -- if consumers would only buy beef that could be traced back -- then why is the USDA even worried about making the program mandatory? Just the other day, a friend of mine said that she was never eating at Wendy's again, because she found DIRT on a baked potato.. That's...

Good. You go right ahead and send all your beef to the far east instead of the near south, and we won't have to worry about the export market -- we'll be too busy trying to keep up with domestic demand and enjoying higher prices as a result.

Agreed 100%! I think it's high time for a roll call on NAIS. What I think is that if *everyone* here could manage to find their nads long enough to stand up and be counted, the gung-ho "make it mandatory" crowd would find themselves severely outnumbered by folks who know they don't have to...

...you straight up that I hate M-ID with a passion, and I'll do everything I possibly can to avoid having to comply with it. IF it were market driven, I'd be in the "do it if I have to" crowd, satisfied that I had *chosen* to comply -- versus having been forced by the USDA (read, Tyson Foods et...

So you were accusing me, personally, of being wholly responsible for the lack of quality and quantity that you believe exist in the American beef and cattle industry -- problems which are apparently large-scale enough to cause packers to look North for better product? That's pretty thin.. I...