I need to find some deals like that to feed out, I'm at $6/lb hw on my beef right now, my long time customers haven't backed off but some of the occasional ones have and only picked up a few new customers this time. I also usually have some customers wanting halves, all opted for quarters this time. The group of calves I'm about to wean will probably go to the sale barn instead of getting fed out like usual leaving just my last fall born calves to feed out for next spring, the demand for freezer beef seems to be better in spring anyway. I have a lot of people wanting just burger, I usually grind a cow from time to time for that, at the prices they're bringing across the scale, I can't make them pencil.