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Hpacres440p said:
Nah. That would get me locked up for “animal cruelty” I’m sure.
Just don’t get it. I’ve had food animals a majority of my life. You treat them right, they feed you. That’s all the question was-what reason someone would have to allow continued dysfunction or pain. The insurance question was top of my mind.
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I completely understand how it's makes a person feel.

There's good stewards and downright terrible ones.

To me. If an animal is suffering, it's MY responsibility to take action immediately even if it means missing supper or a special event/occasion.

Everyone does it differently, but I take great pride in how I care for my animals and think everyone should.
 
callmefence said:
It really doesn't matter imo. A dog is property. It should be up to the owner.
Should we outlaw hunting dogs, cattle dogs, police dogs etc because they might be hurt. People who concern themselves with others business usually don't have enough of their own. People think anytime you can see ribs and pins on a cow it must be starving.
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Yes, a dog is like livestock and is the property of the owner. However, it is not the owner's right to mistreat it, torture it, beat it,. starve it, etc. IF I see it, I will get involved, at whatever level is needed to relieve the animal. But it WILL end, I guarantee it.
 
libertygarden said:
Exactly. Last thing country folk need is a Next Door Karen.
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Nothing Karen about it, and living in the country, no matter how ignorant and backwards some one is does not give them a free pass to be abusive. If it was me, after so much time has passed and nothi9ng was done, I'd be liable to euthanize that bull myself.
 
In Texas where it was getting crowded with suburbanites there was a retired rodeo promoter with a lot of property who let the old rodeo stock live out their lives and die. He didn't feed them much or supply any care since death 'was natural'. Well, an emaciated old grey horse decided to lay down and start dying right by the road. People reported it to authorities but nothing was done. So people got on social media and created public outrage. They even had a billboard put up on the highway with picture of the dying horse. Well, something got done about it.
 
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Hpacres440p said:
Nope-euthanasia would be better for the 24/7/365 chain dog, imo
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When I grew up, every house had a pen of beagles, and a coon dog on a chain. Sometimes you chained your pair f bird dogs, and sometimes they;d be penned, depending on how many pens you had. We were far enough off the road, that I let the bird dogs just hang under the porch. I have seen 4 and 5 figure coon dogs on a chain, and they were as heaalthy as any that might be penned. Nothing cruel or abusive in chaining a dog. Chaining one with no fooed, water or shelter is another story.
 
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TexasJerseyMilker said:
In Texas where it was getting crowded with suburbanites there was a retired rodeo promoter with a lot of property who let the old rodeo stock live out their lives and die. He didn't feed them much or supply any care since death 'was natural'. Well, an emaciated old grey horse decided to lay down and start dying right by the road. People reported it to authorities but nothing was done. So people got on social media and created public outrage. They even had a billboard put up on the highway with picture of the dying horse. Well, something got done about it.
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Well finish the story... what got done?
 
TexasJerseyMilker said:
In Texas where it was getting crowded with suburbanites there was a retired rodeo promoter with a lot of property who let the old rodeo stock live out their lives and die. He didn't feed them much or supply any care since death 'was natural'. Well, an emaciated old grey horse decided to lay down and start dying right by the road. People reported it to authorities but nothing was done. So people got on social media and created public outrage. They even had a billboard put up on the highway with picture of the dying horse. Well, something got done about it.
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There was a story on the local news many years ago about a guy that was buying horses for slaughter, and he was keeping them in a pen with good food and water for a couple of months before they took the long walk. The reporter strongly implied that the horses were being abused. They took video of the horses and some looked starved and some were injured.
We were boarding horses at the time. We knew there were plenty of owners that bought pets and once they showed their horse off to their friends they barely did anything after. We had horses owned by boarders that injured themselves and the owners refused to provide medical care. We had owners run out of feed and they "forgot" to buy more. Owners that refused to pay their rent, too.
So what I'm saying is that the guy buying and feeding slaughter horses was not responsible for the condition of the horses he bought. The previous owners were.
The media was making the guy feeding the horses until they gained some weight into the scapegoat when he was giving the abused horses a couple of better months on good feed.
I went down to the media outlet and met with the reporter doing the story... and he actually listened. The story died. But there was no clarification offered in any subsequent reporting.
 
@Hpacres440p If it makes you feel any better, these ones just go wherever and do whatever, in a fence-in county. Owner contracts for the sheriff's office so nothing gets done. I just pushed them back away from the road and back towards where they belong yesterday. Dogs cranked up a bit ago, might go see if they need to be bumped on again. They were on this side of the road yesterday too at one point, tracks everywhere. I'm not one of them that calls the law, though I've called them over loose horses before. I just push or bump them out of the way, if they're not in the road or on the wrong side then I say what happens happens.
 

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What got done with the dying horse? Euthanized I don't know by what method. The old rancher had to have his animals inspected at any time after that. As I recall the sheriff got involved.

My husband actually knew this guy when he was younger. His sons would sometimes come help work his cattle. Back when they were running rodeo stock they had great looking animals in the pastures. I liked driving by there. Multi colored horned bucking bulls and big strong looking horses. My husband says the dad got old and the sons moved off so he just started letting nature take it's course. But thats no excuse. Bullets are cheap and the carcass could be dragged away from the road.

As we know, death by nature for livestock animals is brutal. Buzzards come pick their eyes while they are still alive.
 
Ky hills said:
I agree with others you’ve done your part anything further should probably be sheriff or animal control. I would caution though that could cause sone bad blood between neighbors if they associated it being from you.
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I agree with this on the starving animals. Make your report anonymous. In my area, the authorities act on these things pretty quickly.
 
Black cattle on the road-- When we moved here the fences were a joke of hanging barb wire held together with baling twine. Almost every night we would hear people honking their horns. We would go out for another midnight rodeo and drive them back. Sometimes, the locals would get out, open gates and put the cattle back themselves. These were the leasers cattle, not ours. But if someone hits one and is injured or killed who's liable? So my husband and I refenced the whole place with cattle panels so the cattle could no longer fence crawl.
 
TexasJerseyMilker said:
What got done with the dying horse? Euthanized I don't know by what method. The old rancher had to have his animals inspected at any time after that. As I recall the sheriff got involved.

My husband actually knew this guy when he was younger. His sons would sometimes come help work his cattle. Back when they were running rodeo stock they had great looking animals in the pastures. I liked driving by there. Multi colored horned bucking bulls and big strong looking horses. My husband says the dad got old and the sons moved off so he just started letting nature take it's course. But thats no excuse. Bullets are cheap and the carcass could be dragged away from the road.

As we know, death by nature for livestock animals is brutal. Buzzards come pick their eyes while they are still alive.
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So the horse layed out dying by the road until a billboard got built??Just where in Texas did this happen.
 
libertygarden said:
Ever since TX got rid of horse slaughters, it's not uncommon to see old horses slowly starve to death on pastures because the owner won't kill it and there isn't a market for it.
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Outlawing slaughtering horses for pet food has caused more animals to suffer than slaughtering ever did, but bleeding hearts couldn't stand the thought of killing a horse. Good intentions often have bad outcomes.
 
If you get on well with the neighbour and the circumstances haven't changed I would go and see him to find out his plans with it, tell him it is distressing you and a lot of other people. If you keep the conversation civil and explain your view he might realise that he needs to do something urgently.

Ken
 
Son of Butch said:
Outlawing slaughtering horses for pet food has caused more animals to suffer than slaughtering ever did, but bleeding hearts couldn't stand the thought of killing a horse. Good intentions often have bad outcomes.
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It was slaughtering for human consumption that was outlawed. Used to process the meat here and export to most;y France. Outlawing just caused horses to suffer more on long hauls to Canada or Mexico with no water. Plus it severely devalued grade horses for a while.
 
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