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I have 3 farms spread across 10 miles that need cattle to be loaded up and hauled from place to place. It would be impossible to walk cattle to one corral setup, that would involve shutting down 2 highways, crossing probably 200 pieces of private property and crossing 10+ rivers.

Wood outside UP here in the moist climate is lucky to last 10 years. RR ties in the ground I replace every 8-10 years. So that would corral would need rebuilding many times in the lifespan of the steel panels.
 
Dave said:
All that steel does look mighty nice. And great idea on those hinges Rydero. But holy moly the dollars!!! $300 for 30 foot sections of corral. No wonder some people think there is no money in cattle. It cost me $62 for 30 feet of Lodge pole pine poles and RR ties with me cutting my own poles. If I purchased the poles it would cost me $135. I do realize that steel will last longer. But I also know of some real nice steel corrals sitting empty that haven't been used in years.
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That's a good reason to use the 24' freestanding units.......... they'll almost always bring what you've paid for 'em on auction.
 
chevytaHOE5674 said:
I have 3 farms spread across 10 miles that need cattle to be loaded up and hauled from place to place. It would be impossible to walk cattle to one corral setup, that would involve shutting down 2 highways, crossing probably 200 pieces of private property and crossing 10+ rivers.

Wood outside UP here in the moist climate is lucky to last 10 years. RR ties in the ground I replace every 8-10 years. So that would corral would need rebuilding many times in the lifespan of the steel panels.
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It is a big old world with different conditions. Here cattle get herded down every road except the interstate. Just last week I saw a couple hundred cows driven down the frontage road. Turned and up across an over pass over the interstate. And out a major 2 lane highway (60 mph road). They do that several times every year.
About 10 miles from my house is the remains of an old corral. It sits on a few acres between the old highway 30 and the interstate. The people who own the property also own several thousand acres on the other side of the interstate. I am sure it was the corral they used before the freeway was built in 1962. Nearly 60 years ago. When they built the freeway it cut that corral off from use. There is only a few poles left but all the RR ties are still standing.
I have to remind myself often here that it is indeed a big world with lots of differences.
 
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It is a big old world with different conditions. Here cattle get herded down every road except the interstate. Just last week I saw a couple hundred cows driven down the frontage road. Turned and up across an over pass over the interstate. And out a major 2 lane highway (60 mph road). They do that several times every year.
About 10 miles from my house is the remains of an old corral. It sits on a few acres between the old highway 30 and the interstate. The people who own the property also own several thousand acres on the other side of the interstate. I am sure it was the corral they used before the freeway was built in 1962. Nearly 60 years ago. When they built the freeway it cut that corral off from use. There is only a few poles left but all the RR ties are still standing.
I have to remind myself often here that it is indeed a big world with lots of differences.
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Use what is handy and reasonably priced. I have one corral I built with barky poles because I needed something quick and wood was sort of cheap when I built it. However, being 130 miles from the forest and only 80 miles to a "local" pipe yard, the pipe is the way to go. If I was close to a stand of poles and they are cheap and easy to get, I would use them extensively.

Been looking at the stand alone pipe panels. Right now, all pipe is $50/stick, so a 5 bar panel (1.9" bars) framed out with 2-3/8" drill stem will be $400 just in materials. Bars with sucker rod would be the only way to get the cost down. $300-350/panel for 30 footers is looking like a bargain.
 
Here cattle get moved across highways but rarely down them unless its a real short move. Different world, different topography, different climate, different lifestyles.

My cows would need to go thru a town then 9 miles of highway that is full of lake front homes (meaning different house every 150 feet some in the million dollar range). Also remember none of the road frontage is fenced along the trip. In the time it would take me to think of a move like that and who to contact, people to hire, etc I can have the steel panels loaded, transported, unloaded, setup, cattle corraled, loaded, hauled, unloaded, and be sipping a soda on the beach.
 
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chevytaHOE5674 said:
Here cattle get moved across highways but rarely down them unless its a real short move. Different world, different topography, different climate, different lifestyles.

My cows would need to go thru a town then 9 miles of highway that is full of lake front homes (meaning different house every 150 feet some in the million dollar range). Also remember none of the road frontage is fenced along the trip. In the time it would take me to think of a move like that and who to contact, people to hire, etc I can have the steel panels loaded, transported, unloaded, setup, cattle corraled, loaded, hauled, unloaded, and be sipping a soda on the beach.
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Last year I helped move about 400 head of 6 weight cattle down the road about 5 or 6 miles. A guy out front in a pickup. If I remember correctly 5 on horse back and I am sure they had a dog or three. And me in the rear driving a pickup. We crossed one main highway and there was two women there to block traffic and keep the cattle going straight. One mile on that route was all 5 & 10 acres places on one side of the road. Most if not all were fenced and most had gates. The guy in front closed the gates. Part of my job was to open the gates back up. If there wasn't a gate one of the cowboys would slide up ahead and park his horse in the driveway. Everything went smooth. We were done in a couple hours. Way less time and expense than would have taken to load up and haul those critters.
 
Dave said:
Last year I helped move about 400 head of 6 weight cattle down the road about 5 or 6 miles. A guy out front in a pickup. If I remember correctly 5 on horse back and I am sure they had a dog or three. And me in the rear driving a pickup. We crossed one main highway and there was two women there to block traffic and keep the cattle going straight. One mile on that route was all 5 & 10 acres places on one side of the road. Most if not all were fenced and most had gates. The guy in front closed the gates. Part of my job was to open the gates back up. If there wasn't a gate one of the cowboys would slide up ahead and park his horse in the driveway. Everything went smooth. We were done in a couple hours. Way less time and expense than would have taken to load up and haul those critters.
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Thats great out there in Gods country where there is open range and common sense. Doesn’t work here in the land of fruits and nuts! I wish it did!
 
We are miles from pavement. Not uncommon to have to wait for 1000 head to pass by while trying to get somewhere. Like others have said, things are different wherever you go.
 
"Most were fenced and most had gates..."

This is a fence in state so the only people with fences are those with livestock. So on my 9 mile trip with 200 properties there are ZERO fences. Being a fence in state if my cows knocked over a blade of grass or "welcome to the beach" sign you can bet id be getting a hefty bill in the mail
 
chevytaHOE5674 said:
"Most were fenced and most had gates..."

This is a fence in state so the only people with fences are those with livestock. So on my 9 mile trip with 200 properties there are ZERO fences. Being a fence in state if my cows knocked over a blade of grass or "welcome to the beach" sign you can bet id be getting a hefty bill in the mail
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That sucks. My area is an “open range” area. If you don’t want someone’s cows on your place you fence them out. And if someone hits my cow with their vehicle they get the bill.
 
I bought a set of portable Corrals years ago. They were really handy and fairly easy to move. We had them in 4-5 different places as we added more land to the ranch. I finally made them semi permanent a few years ago. I can still move them but probably never will. There's something to be said for permanent and portable setups. Everyone has their own needs. If I leased a couple places I'd buy another portable set up and leave them stacked on a gooseneck when not in use. 2 men could easily set the entire 50 hd corral up in an hour. This includes the working tub.
 
Yes it is a big old world with lots of differences. It is 3 miles from here to the old highway. Not counting my corral there is 3 corrals between here and the old highway and another set right across the road when you get to the stop sign. If needed I could use any of those corrals. Just close the gates when you are done. That is on 3 ranches. And all three of them have had some of their cattle in my corral a time or two in the last year or two.
 
Australia still has a network of travelling stock routes that get used especially in droughts where some graziers may elect to put their stock "on the road" and just walk and graze the stock routes going around over many hundreds of km, sometimes to end back at home when conditions improve, sometimes to deliver to saleyards in better condition than when they left home. There are water points along the routes and the cattle are required to travel a certain number km/day. A notable cattle drive of recent years was the Brinkworth drive in 2014 when Tom Brinkworth bought 18,000 cattle from the AAco in central Qld and employed boss drover Bill Little bring them 2000km to his newly acquired properties in central west NSW. It was during drought years. Little split them up into several groups with experienced drovers in charge and some going further out west.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2014-01-29/rural-sach-brinkworth-drover-2901/5225418
Ken
 
SmokinM said:
Oh yeah, that Arrowquip is the cats meow!
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One of the vet techs said she & her husband traded their Arrowquip up to one with a palp cage and their trade in was almost what they originally paid for it. I don't know if it's because they hold their value that well or if it's supply/demand, similar to ridiculous prices for used trucks.

Worked the cattle in the west 80 with our Titan and while I've always liked that chute, there's NO comparison.
 

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