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<blockquote data-quote="Dylan Biggs" data-source="post: 808863" data-attributes="member: 14282"><p>Knersie, we have been grass finishing and killing cattle for our branded beef wholesale and direct to consumer sales for the last 16 years and I agree with you. When you do the math to cut yield you quickly find carcass weight matters. After all our experimenting our preference from a cowherd standpoint in our environment and with our management is frame 4-5 and from a finishing stand point 4-6 works. Like you say, type in our experience is more crucial then frame score. </p><p></p><p>The last research I did, 2 years ago, of grass finished demographics in North America indicated that the vast majority of cattle harvested off grass are killed at over 20 months of age. This in our experience reinforces the need for cattle with a growth curve that will capitalize the time economically. I believe the niche marketers who are sharp with the pencil will conclude that carcass weight is an essential component of the margin equation and that the appetite for frame 2 and 3 cattle will wane, if their ever was one.</p><p>To be fair there may be a specialized application for 2 and 3 if rapid frame score reduction is the goal.</p><p></p><p>Middle of the road, and if you are going err on the side of safety a little to the uphill side like Idaman intimated is the safer side to err on. :tiphat:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dylan Biggs, post: 808863, member: 14282"] Knersie, we have been grass finishing and killing cattle for our branded beef wholesale and direct to consumer sales for the last 16 years and I agree with you. When you do the math to cut yield you quickly find carcass weight matters. After all our experimenting our preference from a cowherd standpoint in our environment and with our management is frame 4-5 and from a finishing stand point 4-6 works. Like you say, type in our experience is more crucial then frame score. The last research I did, 2 years ago, of grass finished demographics in North America indicated that the vast majority of cattle harvested off grass are killed at over 20 months of age. This in our experience reinforces the need for cattle with a growth curve that will capitalize the time economically. I believe the niche marketers who are sharp with the pencil will conclude that carcass weight is an essential component of the margin equation and that the appetite for frame 2 and 3 cattle will wane, if their ever was one. To be fair there may be a specialized application for 2 and 3 if rapid frame score reduction is the goal. Middle of the road, and if you are going err on the side of safety a little to the uphill side like Idaman intimated is the safer side to err on. :tiphat: [/QUOTE]
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