Working Cattle What & When.

Stepper

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I am going to move my heifers to some good pasture as soon as the grass starts growing, probably the middle of March. What if anything should i do to them before i turn them loose. Should i do any worming (pour on or injectable) or any type of vacinations. When i bought them at the sale barn i told the vet to give them all of their shots and to make sure he wormed them. That was the last of October.
 
Angus Guy,

I am feeding a miner called "right now (onayx)" I am not sure how high the Magnueism content is in it though. Do you know anything about it ?
 
Stepper":3hhd701u said:
I am going to move my heifers to some good pasture as soon as the grass starts growing, probably the middle of March. What if anything should i do to them before i turn them loose. Should i do any worming (pour on or injectable) or any type of vacinations. When i bought them at the sale barn i told the vet to give them all of their shots and to make sure he wormed them. That was the last of October.

Stepper,

Are you asking what to give and when as far as vaccinations are concerned? I'm not sure your if you have a vaccination program or are asking about what to do to start one.
 
Stepper":3ts8qjke said:
Angus Guy,

I am feeding a miner called "right now (onayx)" I am not sure how high the Magnueism content is in it though. Do you know anything about it ?
Put the Sweetlix Copperhead mineral to work for you. That "Right now' is overpriced Mineral. Money belongs in your wallet not the Mineral Mill's!
 
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Crowderfarms":kesxfdif said:
Stepper":kesxfdif said:
Angus Guy,

I am feeding a miner called "right now (onayx)" I am not sure how high the Magnueism content is in it though. Do you know anything about it ?
Put the Sweetlix Copperhead mineral to work for you. That "Right now' is overpriced Mineral. Money belongs in your wallet not the Mineral Mill's!

Or the Vigortone!
 
MikeC":2mlpu9wt said:
Crowderfarms":2mlpu9wt said:
Stepper":2mlpu9wt said:
Angus Guy,

I am feeding a miner called "right now (onayx)" I am not sure how high the Magnueism content is in it though. Do you know anything about it ?
Put the Sweetlix Copperhead mineral to work for you. That "Right now' is overpriced Mineral. Money belongs in your wallet not the Mineral Mill's!

Or the Vigortone!
Sorry Mr. C yep, the Vigortone. Good stuff too.
 
Crowderfarms":16luvtdf said:
Sorry Mr. C yep, the Vigortone. Good stuff too.

Check the lable on the Vigortone. We always used it in the past but this year we had footrot problems and looking at the lable it seems they've quit putting any iodine in it. Or that may just be for this area, don;t know for sure

dun
 
cypressfarms,

That is sort of what i am asking. I plan on vaccinating my calfes at 3 month's and when they are weaned. And i was planning on giving them a booster once a year. These heifers was 550lbs when i bought them and i bought them at the sale barn. They were not ear tagged or anything and i was not sure what if any shots they had. So i had the vet vaccinate them and ear tag them. I am not sure what all you vaccinate them for. I think he gave them shots for pinkeye, blackleg, tecnus, bricillosis, wormer. I am not sure what all you are suppose to vaccinate for or when ? I am not sure when and what types of wormer to give. I just know that if i need to do anything like that while i have them up and are moving them would be a good time to take care of things like that.
 
Stepper":1g3c7a5z said:
cypressfarms,

That is sort of what i am asking. I plan on vaccinating my calfes at 3 month's and when they are weaned. And i was planning on giving them a booster once a year. These heifers was 550lbs when i bought them and i bought them at the sale barn. They were not ear tagged or anything and i was not sure what if any shots they had. So i had the vet vaccinate them and ear tag them. I am not sure what all you vaccinate them for. I think he gave them shots for pinkeye, blackleg, tecnus, bricillosis, wormer. I am not sure what all you are suppose to vaccinate for or when ? I am not sure when and what types of wormer to give. I just know that if i need to do anything like that while i have them up and are moving them would be a good time to take care of things like that.

O.k. Stepper, I'll probably get bashed for plugging brands but here goes:

First you stated that the heifers were 550 lbs. and three months when you bought them at the salebarn. One of them is wrong. A 90 day old heifer will not weigh 550 lbs. Maybe I mis-understood your beginning, but the reason for bringing it up is that you will need to accurately guess the weight of your heifers for some medicines (wormers).

I vaccinate as follows:

Work cows fully twice per year, spring and fall. In the spring they receive a worming, with ivomec plus. Here's where knowing the weight is important as if I remember correctly you give 1cc per 110 lbs of weight. There are two main types of wormers, pour on and injectable, I use injections. Also in the spring I give all cattle a combination vaccination that includes IBR, BVD, types 1 and 2, and lepto. I've used cattlemaster brand, and have had no problems. Most combo vaccines usually require a first dose, then another 2 to 4 weeks later, then annual boosters. Blackleg vaccine as well. So 3 injections in Spring. In the fall, I usually just worm the cattle with ivomec plus.

You will also, being in the south, need some sort of insect control. Many varieties of this. You can buy minerals with additives, pour ons, booms for the cattle to rub against, and ear tags with medication. This year I'm going to try one of the newer boluses in each cow. Insert bolus (pill) into each cow, and it will work for reportedly 5 months. Expensive, though, at about $14 a bolus.

Injection site is very critical as well. Beef cattle should not receive injections in the rear(it will cause gristle in the meat), but in the neck just ahead of the shoulder. Some medications require IM injections and some require SQ injections.The label will tell you which method to administer.

Sorry if it seems I'm talking down to you, I don't mean that at all, but don't know your level of experience. Hopefully this has helped, and I'm sure that if I left something out, someone will help point it out. Oh yeah, I'm not a doctor!, so take my advice, and advice from others as such.

Good luck.
 
cypress - Is there any particular reason you prefer Ivomec Plus injections? We've been using Eprinex pour-on for years and have had good luck. I tried one of the generic pour-ons this past fall and so far haven't seen any shortcomings.

cfpinz
 
Stepper - the onyx is what they recommend as a breeding mineral, the bronze is the winter mineral and I thinkEmerald is the spring one. But if you're like it is around here, there's a feed dealer about every 10 miles. I think its more important to read the label to compare what percentage of mineral/vitamin you are getting and I prefer a medicated one.

Best of luck to you.
 
cfpinz":2ztze3fu said:
cypress - Is there any particular reason you prefer Ivomec Plus injections? We've been using Eprinex pour-on for years and have had good luck. I tried one of the generic pour-ons this past fall and so far haven't seen any shortcomings.

cfpinz

I guess it's more because I've never had problems with the results. It also controls liver flukes, which most other wormers don't; and down here it's wet and humid. Flukes could be a concern.

It just comes down to what you feel comfortable with. I don't cut costs when it comes to medications for the cattle. No particular reason, though, I guess it just gives me more piece of mind.
 
We've always used Eprinex and had good results, so I'm leary of using anything else but this fall we tried a generic ivermectin on everyone to test. With Eprinex at $300+ per 5L and the generics at ~$70 it really makes me think about it.

cfpinz
 
cypressfarms,

I apprechaite your help. There is no offense taken. I have no experience at all when it come's to cattle. I have had horse's for about 6 year's now.

What i meant to say was that i was planning on vaccinateing any future calfve's that i may have at 3 month's of age and again when they are weaned. I am planning on putting a bull with the heifer's that i bought at the sale barn. They weighed 550 lbs when i bought them back in October. I have been feeding them a 6 lb ration of 12 to 14 % grain along with all of the hay they can eat. And i am planning on tring to get them bred this coming May.

So what i was wanting to know was exactly what you told me. What and when to worm and vaccinate them with.

Thanks again cypressfarm's.
 
Sorry about not answering your question forgot I posted here. The reason for hi-mag mineral is to avoid tetany this spring.
 
Thanks Angus Guy. Now what is tetany ? I am new to this. Is it something similiar to colic in horse's ?
 
Angus Guy,

That was a good web address esplaining tetany. Now that i have read about it. A guy i know was telling me about a cow of his that had gotten down and was sort of in a comma, I remember him saying its eye's was fixed and rolled back in it's head. And he said the vet give it a shot and in a matter of minutes it was up like nothing was wrong. And he said the vet told him that it was lacking something that forage on his pasture was suppose to provide. Now that i think about it. I bet that cow had tetany.
 

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