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<blockquote data-quote="bball" data-source="post: 1275014" data-attributes="member: 23752"><p>I can't find any real precedent where they have fined for clearing woodlands. It's like M-5 says, if you aren't in a program nor intend to, USDA shouldn't care...except for the fact that SOMEONE turned them on to your place now. So I would schedule a meeting and find out just exactly what their agenda is and make clear you have no intention of being involved with any of their programs. I would not tell them to kiss my azz, or go down there trying to pizz them off. Because they could make one phone call to the EPA, who does fine people all the time, seize property, etc. Very least, make things difficult for you.. who needs that? Sadly, we don't live in a free country really. Big brother has been watching for a while. I have never put an acre of my ground in a USDA program, but when I went to check on one of my farms at their office last year, (after finding out I could be ruining property value by clearing property with out checking with them first) turns out they had records of the farm from previous 1985! Previous owners 3 owners back! ! When I asked the rep what the consequences were for being non compliant, he said I would have to repay any money received from USDA (no problem, didn't receive any). Would also disqualify all other properties (could be a problem for leasing ground to row croppers) and to remedy problem, a person would have to return property to previous condition. (So any drain tile would be cut,capped or filled and any woodlands would need to be replanted (to the tune of $800 an acre average)).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bball, post: 1275014, member: 23752"] I can't find any real precedent where they have fined for clearing woodlands. It's like M-5 says, if you aren't in a program nor intend to, USDA shouldn't care...except for the fact that SOMEONE turned them on to your place now. So I would schedule a meeting and find out just exactly what their agenda is and make clear you have no intention of being involved with any of their programs. I would not tell them to kiss my azz, or go down there trying to pizz them off. Because they could make one phone call to the EPA, who does fine people all the time, seize property, etc. Very least, make things difficult for you.. who needs that? Sadly, we don't live in a free country really. Big brother has been watching for a while. I have never put an acre of my ground in a USDA program, but when I went to check on one of my farms at their office last year, (after finding out I could be ruining property value by clearing property with out checking with them first) turns out they had records of the farm from previous 1985! Previous owners 3 owners back! ! When I asked the rep what the consequences were for being non compliant, he said I would have to repay any money received from USDA (no problem, didn't receive any). Would also disqualify all other properties (could be a problem for leasing ground to row croppers) and to remedy problem, a person would have to return property to previous condition. (So any drain tile would be cut,capped or filled and any woodlands would need to be replanted (to the tune of $800 an acre average)). [/QUOTE]
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