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<blockquote data-quote="jscunn" data-source="post: 126120" data-attributes="member: 1257"><p>I agree there is a need to have low birth weight bulls for Heifers. We usually run 2 bulls. One for the mature cows (Currently a +5.3 BW, 49 WW Angus) and our last LBW bull was (+0.8 BW 33ww Angus). We run the heifers and the 2 year olds together and they get bred to the LBW bull. The rest of the mature cows are bred to the HBW bull. </p><p>What's the saying "A big strapping calf at birth is usually a big strapping calf at weaning". Also a cow will normally produce a calf 7% her body weight (1000lb cow 70 lb calf, 1300lb cow 91lb calf), so dont just blame the bull. I think this is why the Angus Assoc came out with CED and CEM, hopefully to take in other factors than BW. </p><p>I think that some farmers/ranchers get caught up in the hype. Convience traits like easy to sell, especially when there is an EPD to go with them like BW. We have to buy another LBW bull this year and I think we will focus on CED CEM more the BW epd. I would easily breed heifers to a +3 BW bull if he had an above avg CED. As a matter of fact we bred 6 heifers of our LBW to a bull with an EPD 3.7 BW and so far (Knock on Wood) we are 2 for 2 (both bulls <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /> ) neither one of them weighed over 65#. Let you know about the other 4 heifers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jscunn, post: 126120, member: 1257"] I agree there is a need to have low birth weight bulls for Heifers. We usually run 2 bulls. One for the mature cows (Currently a +5.3 BW, 49 WW Angus) and our last LBW bull was (+0.8 BW 33ww Angus). We run the heifers and the 2 year olds together and they get bred to the LBW bull. The rest of the mature cows are bred to the HBW bull. What's the saying "A big strapping calf at birth is usually a big strapping calf at weaning". Also a cow will normally produce a calf 7% her body weight (1000lb cow 70 lb calf, 1300lb cow 91lb calf), so dont just blame the bull. I think this is why the Angus Assoc came out with CED and CEM, hopefully to take in other factors than BW. I think that some farmers/ranchers get caught up in the hype. Convience traits like easy to sell, especially when there is an EPD to go with them like BW. We have to buy another LBW bull this year and I think we will focus on CED CEM more the BW epd. I would easily breed heifers to a +3 BW bull if he had an above avg CED. As a matter of fact we bred 6 heifers of our LBW to a bull with an EPD 3.7 BW and so far (Knock on Wood) we are 2 for 2 (both bulls :mad: ) neither one of them weighed over 65#. Let you know about the other 4 heifers. [/QUOTE]
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