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<blockquote data-quote="4CTophand" data-source="post: 615303" data-attributes="member: 9140"><p>How to Choose your Commercial Crosses Based on Carcass Merit</p><p>Characterization of breeds based on their biological type </p><p></p><p><strong>Very high lean, low marbling, low milk, late puberty</strong></p><p></p><p>Charolais -- very high growth (represents YG 0 – 1 QG Select) Why you see Char x ang</p><p>Chianina -- very high growth (represents YG 0 – 1 QG Select) Why you see Chi x ang</p><p>Limousin -- moderate growth (represents YG 0 – 1 QG Select) Why you see Lim x ang</p><p>This group needs a lot of help- </p><p><strong>What would you use besides Angus? </strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>High lean, moderate marbling, high milk, moderate puberty</strong></p><p></p><p>Simmental -- very high growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Simm x angus</p><p>Maine Anjou -- very high growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Maine x angus</p><p>Gelbvieh -- very high growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Gelbv x angus</p><p>Brown Swiss -- high growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Br. Sw x________</p><p></p><p><strong>Moderate lean, moderate marbling, high milk, early puberty</strong></p><p></p><p>South Devon -- moderate growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) S. Dev x ____</p><p>Tarentaise -- moderate growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Tarent x ______</p><p>Pinzgauer -- moderate growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Pinz x _______</p><p><strong>What would you cross these cattle breeds with to improve carcass merit?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Moderate lean, low marbling, high milk, very late puberty, heat tolerant</strong></p><p></p><p>Brahman -- high growth (represents YG 0 – 1 QG Select) Why you see Brah x angus or SH or Simm</p><p>Sahiwal -- low growth (represents YG 0 – 1 QG Select) Why you don't see any!</p><p><strong>What would you cross these cattle with to improve Carcass Merit? </strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Low lean, high marbling, moderate milk, moderate puberty</strong></p><p></p><p>Black Angus -- moderate growth (Represents YG 2-4 QG LMH Choice and Prime) </p><p><strong>Angus are used in so many crosses </strong>to help other breeds fill in the gaps they lack in carcass merit. </p><p><strong>The reason Angus needs to be crossed </strong>with another breed <strong>is too much YG. </strong>When an animal is harvested and there is <strong>more than a YG 2 </strong>carcass, extra time has to be taken to trim off that excess fat—hence the PB/ Comm. <strong>Angus gets penalized. </strong></p><p>That's why cattle buyers want a feeder that is only ½ angus and preferably 3/8's.</p><p></p><p><strong>What breed would you choose to cross with an Angus? </strong></p><p></p><p>Hereford -- moderate growth (Represents YG 1-3 QG LMH Choice and LM Prime)</p><p>Seldom does a Hereford feeder, properly fed, grade less than YG2, but with their moderate growth they do need to be crossed with another breed, which promotes Hybrid Vigor. </p><p></p><p><strong>Which breed would you choose?</strong></p><p></p><p>Red Poll -- low growth (Represents YG 2-4 QG LMH Choice and L Prime)</p><p>Don't see many of these cattle around due to their low growth potentials. </p><p></p><p><strong>What would you cross this Breed with to improve Growth?</strong></p><p></p><p>N. Devon -- low growth (Represents YG 2-4 QG LMH Choice and L Prime)</p><p></p><p><strong>What would you cross this Breed with to improve Growth?</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Very high milk, high marbling, early puberty</strong></p><p></p><p>Holstein—moderate lean, high growth. <strong>Steers in the feed yard have diminished due to sexed semen</strong></p><p>Jersey -- low lean, low growth Why you see some people feed Jersey crosses for freezer, but <strong>steers in the feed yard have diminished due to sexed semen</strong></p><p></p><p>Someday when you, as a commercial cattleman/woman, are held responsible for quality pounds instead of <strong>just </strong>quantity pounds, you will want to make some wise decisions. This is day is approaching.</p><p></p><p><strong>I am interested in:</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>What you do now?</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>What breeds you chose and why?</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>What you would change in your operations having this information before you?</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="4CTophand, post: 615303, member: 9140"] How to Choose your Commercial Crosses Based on Carcass Merit Characterization of breeds based on their biological type [b]Very high lean, low marbling, low milk, late puberty[/b] Charolais -- very high growth (represents YG 0 – 1 QG Select) Why you see Char x ang Chianina -- very high growth (represents YG 0 – 1 QG Select) Why you see Chi x ang Limousin -- moderate growth (represents YG 0 – 1 QG Select) Why you see Lim x ang This group needs a lot of help- [b]What would you use besides Angus? [/b] [b]High lean, moderate marbling, high milk, moderate puberty[/b] Simmental -- very high growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Simm x angus Maine Anjou -- very high growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Maine x angus Gelbvieh -- very high growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Gelbv x angus Brown Swiss -- high growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Br. Sw x________ [b]Moderate lean, moderate marbling, high milk, early puberty[/b] South Devon -- moderate growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) S. Dev x ____ Tarentaise -- moderate growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Tarent x ______ Pinzgauer -- moderate growth (represents YG 1 – 2 QG LMH Choice) Pinz x _______ [b]What would you cross these cattle breeds with to improve carcass merit?[/b] [b]Moderate lean, low marbling, high milk, very late puberty, heat tolerant[/b] Brahman -- high growth (represents YG 0 – 1 QG Select) Why you see Brah x angus or SH or Simm Sahiwal -- low growth (represents YG 0 – 1 QG Select) Why you don’t see any! [b]What would you cross these cattle with to improve Carcass Merit? [/b] [b]Low lean, high marbling, moderate milk, moderate puberty[/b] Black Angus -- moderate growth (Represents YG 2-4 QG LMH Choice and Prime) [b]Angus are used in so many crosses [/b]to help other breeds fill in the gaps they lack in carcass merit. [b]The reason Angus needs to be crossed [/b]with another breed [b]is too much YG. [/b]When an animal is harvested and there is [b]more than a YG 2 [/b]carcass, extra time has to be taken to trim off that excess fat—hence the PB/ Comm. [b]Angus gets penalized. [/b] That’s why cattle buyers want a feeder that is only ½ angus and preferably 3/8’s. [b]What breed would you choose to cross with an Angus? [/b] Hereford -- moderate growth (Represents YG 1-3 QG LMH Choice and LM Prime) Seldom does a Hereford feeder, properly fed, grade less than YG2, but with their moderate growth they do need to be crossed with another breed, which promotes Hybrid Vigor. [b]Which breed would you choose?[/b] Red Poll -- low growth (Represents YG 2-4 QG LMH Choice and L Prime) Don’t see many of these cattle around due to their low growth potentials. [b]What would you cross this Breed with to improve Growth?[/b] N. Devon -- low growth (Represents YG 2-4 QG LMH Choice and L Prime) [b]What would you cross this Breed with to improve Growth?[/b] [b]Very high milk, high marbling, early puberty[/b] Holstein—moderate lean, high growth. [b]Steers in the feed yard have diminished due to sexed semen[/b] Jersey -- low lean, low growth Why you see some people feed Jersey crosses for freezer, but [b]steers in the feed yard have diminished due to sexed semen[/b] Someday when you, as a commercial cattleman/woman, are held responsible for quality pounds instead of [b]just [/b]quantity pounds, you will want to make some wise decisions. This is day is approaching. [b]I am interested in:[/b] [b]What you do now?[/b] [b]What breeds you chose and why?[/b] [b]What you would change in your operations having this information before you?[/b] [/QUOTE]
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