Wheat hay

[snoopdog]

We've used winter wheat for pasture, and pulled off, and made great hay. Anyones' opinion or link to spring grazing?

 

[Richnm]

Upgrade to Triticale. No better hay for cows. And more tons vs wheat.

 

[wbvs58]

Over the previous 12 months wheat farmers in western New South Wales and other areas made decisions in early spring whether to bale their crop or take it through to grain due to severe widespread drought. I don't think there was much difference in profit due to high hay prices and reduced yields on grain. This hay was sold all over the country, I didn't hear of any complaints with it other than the price.

Ken

 

[Banjo]

We've used winter wheat for pasture, and pulled off, and made great hay. Anyones' opinion or link to spring grazing?

Have you ever had any tested?(wheat hay). I tested some once. The first we baled which was about prime stage was barely 8% protein and that which was cut 3 to 4 days later barely tested 6%. This was off of tobacco patch that wasnt hurting for nutrients.
However, the cattle loved it. I've always heard cattle love wheat hay regardless if its nutritious or not.

 

[greggy]

I have some wheat hay left.....

It is good stuff but expensive like lucerne/alfalfa........I have many other bales and they all try and attack the wheat.

If using as hay though, it has to be cut at right time and be a suitable type.

 

[greggy]

We've used winter wheat for pasture, and pulled off, and made great hay. Anyones' opinion or link to spring grazing?

Have you ever had any tested?(wheat hay). I tested some once. The first we baled which was about prime stage was barely 8% protein and that which was cut 3 to 4 days later barely tested 6%. This was off of tobacco patch that wasnt hurting for nutrients.
However, the cattle loved it. I've always heard cattle love wheat hay regardless if its nutritious or not.

Yep, high energy and average 12% protien.

It has to be done properly, you can have poor or good results with anything.....have some pretty fat and fussy ruminants.....but they all gobble down the weat hay I got.

 

[snoopdog]

We've used winter wheat for pasture, and pulled off, and made great hay. Anyones' opinion or link to spring grazing?

Have you ever had any tested?(wheat hay). I tested some once. The first we baled which was about prime stage was barely 8% protein and that which was cut 3 to 4 days later barely tested 6%. This was off of tobacco patch that wasnt hurting for nutrients.
However, the cattle loved it. I've always heard cattle love wheat hay regardless if its nutritious or not.

Havent had any tested yet,we will tho.And yes, the cattle have loved it even if overmature, abd the pasture renovation is worth something, I am a fan.

 

[Banjo]

We've used winter wheat for pasture, and pulled off, and made great hay. Anyones' opinion or link to spring grazing?

Have you ever had any tested?(wheat hay). I tested some once. The first we baled which was about prime stage was barely 8% protein and that which was cut 3 to 4 days later barely tested 6%. This was off of tobacco patch that wasnt hurting for nutrients.
However, the cattle loved it. I've always heard cattle love wheat hay regardless if its nutritious or not.

Havent had any tested yet,we will tho.And yes, the cattle have loved it even if overmature, abd the pasture renovation is worth something, I am a fan.

Do you no till or spread into your existing pastures? How are you renovating with wheat?

 

[snoopdog]

Have you ever had any tested?(wheat hay). I tested some once. The first we baled which was about prime stage was barely 8% protein and that which was cut 3 to 4 days later barely tested 6%. This was off of tobacco patch that wasnt hurting for nutrients.
However, the cattle loved it. I've always heard cattle love wheat hay regardless if its nutritious or not.

Havent had any tested yet,we will tho.And yes, the cattle have loved it even if overmature, abd the pasture renovation is worth something, I am a fan.

Do you no till or spread into your existing pastures? How are you renovating with wheat?

We have broadcast, and no tilled, this year we no tilled and got an outstanding crop. Now whether it was the waather, planting date, seed, or method, I can't say. But when we bale, usually the wheat is past the dough stage, some not, so when we feed, we try to do it in a summer grass area. I know that's kinda vague, but I was relly concerned about turning weaners in on tall wheat, still green. They seem to be doing fine.

 

[Banjo]

I guess what Im asking are you drilling into existing fescue pasture? Or doing something else.

 

[TexasBred]

Timing is the important think in putting up wheat hay. Go a few days past prime maturity and it literally becomes wheat straw and is worthless. Cut it on time and bale it too high in moisture and it will smolder and burn if not careful with it. Rats and mice will get much of the grain from the bale. Greggy I think your 12% crude protein is being way too generous with it.

 

[greggy]

I can only go on the test report & hope the grower was honest with samples, it actually states crude at over 12, I would use again even if it is in fact lower. I wont be doing my own test due to reasons below.

Quite a few animals walked past Lucerne I had there last year straight to the wheaten, I also have some with some fairly fresh bales of Oaten now, no one has touched the oaten bales, but they are eating out the wheat. The tribe has spoken

 

[Banjo]

Just keep in mind they will relish wheat hay at any nutrient level....not to deter you from wheat hay at all. When i was a kid if I had a choice between cotton candy or fresh garden vegetables .....I would go for the cotton candy every time. just sayin.

 

[Atimm693]

Baled some dry Triticale one year. Cows liked it, but it was tough to get right.

We do 30 acres of wheat silage every year, along with alfalfa and green graze, get close to 10 tons per acre with the wheat. Smells like beer, cows love it.

 

[snoopdog]

I guess what Im asking are you drilling into existing fescue pasture? Or doing something else.

Yes, we are drilling into existing fescue, grazed down in the fall.

 

[kenny thomas]

I guess what Im asking are you drilling into existing fescue pasture? Or doing something else.

Yes, we are drilling into existing fescue, grazed down in the fall.

When are you drilling it?

 

[Richnm]

Anyone had issues with cows bloating of fresh baled wheat hay ? I had a couple die on me once , the hay was baled right after laying in windrows for 5 days but it was fresh.

 

[snoopdog]

I guess what Im asking are you drilling into existing fescue pasture? Or doing something else.

Yes, we are drilling into existing fescue, grazed down in the fall.

When are you drilling it?

Kenny, we drill it in september, and graze it with the fescue. My last post wasn't clear, normally we'll keep the grazing going to a later date than we did this year, so first cutting is about right. This year we pulled off early, so it is more mature. I guess they are going to be fine, but I was a little worried about bloat.They've been on it almost 3 days. We are obviously gonna lose some to trampling, But mostly heads down.

 

[kenny thomas]

I take my cows off certain pastures on Labor day weekend. I have drilled wheat after fall hay but haven't tried it in pasture.
Do you spread Nitrogen on it after drilling?

 

[snoopdog]

I take my cows off certain pastures on Labor day weekend. I have drilled wheat after fall hay but haven't tried it in pasture.
Do you spread Nitrogen on it after drilling?

Yes, we do add nitrogen later